B blork said:
I feel like an idiot but I can't find where to buy hot-dip galvanized 40mm nails like these?

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Been to Byggmax, Jem&Fix, XLBygg and no one seems to have these?!

(I'm going to nail together 2 pieces of 22mm boards so I need 40mm so that the nail doesn't stick out. 50mm are plentiful but won't work well..)
Kamspik 35 mm is available at Ahlsell among others. Kamspik grips incredibly well so it should compensate for the shorter length.
 
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H hydrolift said:
Why not screws? They usually work better than nails for joining two boards.
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Isn't it more troublesome to take down the board when the head is full of multiple layers of paint? 🤔
 
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Dan1891 Dan1891 said:
Jem o Fix seems to have electro-galvanized in store:
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"For indoor and outdoor use" it says, hmmm don't they rust outdoors?
Yes, I looked at these, but yes, they do rust. It said indoor on the box.
 
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MultiMan MultiMan said:
It looks like a nail for a nail gun. Have you looked for those?

I have both brads and regular hot-dip galvanized nails in 40 mm in a box (Gunnebo), but I bought them more than 15 years ago. They should still be available.

Edit: Probably these I bought: [link]
I'll have to order this now, googled for another hour and found nothing reasonable.

If anyone wants to buy 950 nails from me, just let me know. :)

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These are otherwise available from Byggahus.se: https://shop.byggahus.se/collections/spik/products/ankarspik-tdg-300-pack-fast

I don't know what tdg is for treatment? Suitable for outdoor use?

I'm also considering maybe skipping using bleckspik as it was originally and going for farm screws instead, easier to unscrew the day it has to come off again..
https://shop.byggahus.se/products/farmarskruv-traregel-ufo-150-pack-fast?variant=46460630696266
I don't think you can see any difference from a distance that it's screws on one side and nails on the other?
 
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B blork said:
I feel like an idiot but I can't find where to buy 40mm hot-dip galvanized nails like these?

[image]

I've been to Byggmax, Jem&Fix, XLBygg and no one seems to have this?!

(I'm going to nail together two 22mm boards so I need 40mm for the nail not to stick out. 50mm are plentiful but it won't work..)
Looks like ring or screw nails..
 
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Nails on a strip for a nail gun that I've seen have had that appearance with rings, that's why I mentioned it. The 3" and 4" nails that the carpenter had in his Paslode for the battens on my roof looked exactly like that. Same with the nail head, it is not smooth underneath like regular nails.
 
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B blork said:
I'll have to order this now, googled for another hour and can't find anything useful.

If anyone wants to buy 950 nails from me, let me know. :)

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These are otherwise available from Byggahus.se: [link]

I don't know what tdg treatment is? Suitable for outdoor use?

I'm also considering maybe skipping using bleckspik as it was initially and opting for farmar screws instead, easier to unscrew the day it needs to be removed again..
[link]
I don't think you can tell from a distance that it's screws on one side and nails on the other?
I would personally go with quality decking screws in 43 mm. I used that for both fascia boards, around windows, etc.

B blork said:
Hmm maybe these would work: [link]
That should work excellently if you want nails!

Edit: The downside is that it's not even 15 mm in board 2 with normally thin 21-22mm boards. That's too little.
 
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MultiMan MultiMan said:
I personally would have used quality decking screws in 43 mm. I used those for both fascia boards, around windows, etc.

They should work great if you want nails!
I just think it may be difficult to take apart next time when you've painted over all the screw heads? Risk that they will also show through the topcoat? But maybe that's not a problem?
 
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B blork said:
I'm just thinking it will be difficult to take apart next time if you've painted over all the screw heads?
If you're going to take it apart, nails are the right choice. But I think that outdoors, the wood is often worn out anyway by the time it's necessary to disassemble it.
 
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B blork said:
I just think it will be difficult to disassemble next time when you've painted over all the screw heads? Risk that they will also be visible through the finish? But maybe that's not a problem?
I put oil/outdoor sealant in the heads before painting to make it smooth and moisture-proof where the screw head went in, and that compound stays soft for decades. But, it's extra work that you might not want.
 
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MultiMan MultiMan said:
It should work perfectly if you want nails!

Edit: The downside is that it doesn't even reach 15 mm in board 2 with normally thin 21-22mm boards. That's too little.
Yes, it might be too short after all, why is it so hard to find. :D

https://www.proffsmagasinet.se/bygg...karspik-o4-mm-flat-fzv-40-mm-200-pack-3064992
These were still reasonably priced, with shipping about 260kr, just slow shipping.

Otherwise, Bygghus has these, not sure how suitable kolstål is? Happy to support Byggahus :D
https://shop.byggahus.se/products/ankarspik-tdg-300-pack-fast
 
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Yes, 4 mm thick can become problematic, especially with round nails if you're going to nail into thin boards. Risk of cracks.

Otherwise, it's a very good surface treatment and the right length.

Carbon steel is what is usually found in all common galvanized wood nails, as far as I know anyway.
 
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Darn, yes the old ones seem to be 2mm in diameter. But I haven't managed to find it anywhere. Only 40X4.0 that seems to be manufactured. How hard can it be.🤣

I'll use regular nails instead, that'll probably do. https://www.k-rauta.se/produkt/spik-essve-17x40-fzv-rafflad-1000st/7317761040446
The board should also be nailed into the bärläkt or whatever it's called with 75mm nails, so it should hold.
 
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