What can be under roofing felt in 50s houses?

[Stefan1972]

The simplest and best thing would have been to just let it be.............pappspända ceilings behave like that quite normally and you have to take that into account in an old house. It's often nothing that's perfect in any way. It's part of it.
Now you have torn the papp and it's not so easy to restore properly......

 

[Petronille]

Those small imperfections are no problem to fix. You can expect some waviness here and there as the house moves a bit all the time. And don't cut where you're going to repair, tear the paper pieces you're going to cover the damages with. Use no ruler or anything, just tear so you get an irregular "soft" edge and lay the paper pieces in wallpaper paste. Stick them over the damage. And then paint. Should turn out great.

Ok. What kind of paper should be used then? Does newspaper work as someone wrote above? I don't really mind the waviness, I was more concerned that it would start to break more and more.

 

[Petronille]

The simplest and best would have been to just leave it as it was.............paper-stretched ceilings behave like that quite normally and you kind of have to take that into account in an old house. There's often nothing that is perfect in any way. It's part of it. Now you've torn the paper and it's not easy to restore it well......

Yes, someone above suggested that I should check what was underneath. And it sounded like a good idea, I thought, because I believed that you had to remove it (seemed so when I googled a bit generally). It wasn't possible to see anything without tearing quite a bit. But I tore where it was already damaged...

 

[Petronille]

Hmm here I found a good description actually. http://fruabergilagbo.blogspot.com/2013/07/sa-lagas-trasigt-papptak.html

 

[Jiji]

Will try to fix a picture. Had to rip off a part to see. The boards look planed, but there seem to be some nubb.

There is no attic above but sloped ceiling in two of the bedrooms. There are some kind of attic spaces at the sides – have forgotten what it's called now, just like a space in the extension of the sloped ceiling, so to speak – and there are some sawdust and on the outer walls there seems to be some form of thick insulation board that looks like kind of masonite or really thick cardboard (of course it's not that, but to describe how it looks).

Kattvind is probably the word you're looking for. But is there no crawl space above the room in question, or does the room have a sloped ceiling all the way up to the ridge? Those boards could be treetex board. Are they porous? If the boards are planed and there's no risk of sawdust falling through gaps, it seems fine to paint the wood directly, but you'll probably have to live with the nubb holes if you don't want too much work, otherwise, you'll have to put up some kind of boards or new paper.

 

[Petronille]

"Kattvind" is probably the word you're looking for. But is there no attic above the room in question, or does the room have a slanted ceiling all the way up to the ridge? Those panels might be treetex board. Are they porous? If the boards are planed and there's no risk of shavings falling through gaps, it seems possible to paint the wood directly but you'll probably have to live with the nail holes unless you want to do a lot of work; otherwise you'll need to cover it with some kind of board or new paper.

Yes, there is some space above, which I think can only be accessed from the roof. It might be Treetex, and it seems like the smallest room on the upper floor has similar boards on the walls instead of wallpaper. And on the ceiling in the hallway, could it also be Treetex? There are definitely some boards there. It might be possible to paint the boards, and it would look quite nice, since the holes can be filled with putty. However, I guess it would be more work than patching the paper, even though the glue paint probably needs to be washed down.

 

[Jiji]

It is difficult to give advice about the pappen without seeing how much it hangs.

Is it glue paint? It's not entirely certain if the house is from the 50s, but perhaps you've already checked?

You can use wallpaper paste to remove glue paint. However, I have not tested this myself, I have washed. If you're interested in that technique, I can send a link.

 

[Petronille]

It's difficult to give advice about the wallpaper without seeing how much it's hanging.

Is it glue paint? It's not entirely certain if the house is from the 50s, but maybe you've already checked?

You can use wallpaper paste to remove glue paint. I haven't tested this myself, I've washed. If you're interested in that technique, I can send a link.

Hmm, no, you might be right, I assumed it was that (thought it used to be that in the 50s). In our apartment, it was noticeable because the new paint came off, but it doesn't dissolve as easily as I thought. The finger just becomes a little slightly white, it doesn't get sticky, you know. What type of paint could it be then?

 

[Jiji]

Hmm you might be right, I assumed it was that (thought it used to be that in the 50s). In our apartment, it was noticeable because the new paint fell off, but it doesn't dissolve as easily as I thought. The finger just becomes slightly white, it doesn't get sticky like. What kind of paint could it be then?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/byggnadsvard.se/folkhemmets-farger/amp/

It's not entirely easy to figure out. I have a room in the house that was decorated in the 50s or 60s myself. The ceiling probably wasn't painted with glue paint because now it's overpainted with modern plastic paint. There seemed to have been many types of paints in those years, but you never know how modern a painter was involved.

 

[Petronille]

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It's not entirely easy to figure out. I have a room in the house decorated in the 50s or 60s myself. The ceiling has probably not been painted with glue paint because now it is overpainted with modern plastic paint. There seemed to be many types of paint in those years but you don't know how modern the painter involved was.

Thanks, interesting link!

No, it's difficult of course, I'm mostly curious. The paint does chalk a little, so it's not any modern paint. Then, you preferably don't want it to fall down. It sits very loosely on the pieces of paper I've pulled on.

 

[Jiji]

Thanks, interesting link!

No, it's difficult of course, I'm mostly curious. The paint does chalk a bit, so not a modern paint. Plus, you don't want it to fall down. It's very loose on the pieces of paper I've pulled on.

Then it's probably best to try to wash it off. I've heard it can go faster if you use wallpaper paste, but haven't tried it myself. Or you could stretch new paper over the old one and paint with a color of your choice.