Hi,

I am about to install paneling on the ceiling. The panel is a regular facade (small edge) with tongue and groove from Optimera, manufactured by NoviPro (norrlandsträ). They were delivered last week and have since been stored in my garage, propped up 95mm from the floor evenly. Due to the heat, the garage maintains about 18-20 degrees with good ventilation.

Now, as I begin to nail them up, a large amount (so far) are like a banana. That is, they lie flush at the outer ends, but the tongue and groove barely meet in the middle. With force, some can be pressed together, but if you hit with a block and hammer, they spring out. So it feels like the planks themselves are warped. I am nailing the dykert in the tongue diagonally upwards, so it doesn't obstruct.

What the heck do I do now? I don't dare open more packages to "test". It feels like a nightmare to return 500kg of paneling, if that's even possible. And how do you prove something is "too warped"? Or do I just accept that they are like this? Is this the quality one should expect?

I thought this would be quick and easy compared to gypsum. All help and tips are gratefully received!

Best regards
 
How long have they been in the room they are going to be installed in? They should acclimate to the temperature and humidity before being nailed up.
 
T Trevlig said:
How long have they been in the room where they are going to be installed? They should acclimate to temperature and humidity before you nail them up.
I imagine that the downstairs/basement (where they are stored) in the house should be fairly similar in climate to the upstairs (where they will be placed) during this time of year.
 
Anyone have input?

Placed around 10 more planks. Have to discard 2-3 panels per package (6 per package) and it's still hard to get it right. It takes time and turns out so-so.
 
Viktor.J Viktor.J said:
Hello,

I'm about to install paneling in the ceiling. The paneling is a regular facade (small edge) with tongue and groove from Optimera, manufactured by NoviPro (norrlandsträ). They were delivered last week and have since been stored in my garage, elevated 95mm off the floor evenly. Due to the heat, the garage maintains about 18-20 degrees with good ventilation.

Now when I start nailing them up, a large amount (so far) is like a banana. That is, they are flush at the outer ends but the tongue and groove barely meet in the middle. With force, it is possible to press some together, if you hit it with a block and hammer it springs out. So it feels like it's the boards that are warped. I'm shooting the brad nails into the tongue at an angle upwards so they don't hinder.

What the heck do you do now? I'm afraid to open more packages to "test." It feels like a nightmare to return 500kg of paneling, if that's even possible. And how do you prove something is "too warped"? Or is it just to accept that this is how they are? Is this the quality one should expect?

I thought this would be quick and easy compared to drywall. All help and tips are gratefully received!

Best regards
You insert a chisel and place a block between. Then you press in the panel and nail. Keep track to get straight rows by, for example, using a chalk line and measuring from the straight line.
 
Krille-72 Krille-72 said:
You drive in a stämjärn and place a block between. Then you press the panel and nail it. Make sure to keep straight lines by, for example, using a chalk line and measuring from the straight line.
So far, I've screwed a plywood board and then pressed in with a crowbar. But it's still not enough. There are 2mm gaps in certain places, I can accept that but it takes an incredible amount of time. I have moreover surfed out the worst.

The method with the stämjärn seems faster, I can imagine. But I have a vapor barrier in the ceiling that would get damaged. Admittedly, I am screwing holes in it but those are slightly smaller holes.
 
Düsseldorff
That's not the way it should be. Installed wainscoting in two rooms last week. Bone dry, perfectly straight, and could be pressed together by hand in most cases. Otherwise, used a block and very light hammer taps. Rejected 5 out of 100 panel boards.
 
It sounds like the panel should be returned, but if for some reason you don't want to, maybe a mounting strut or two slightly askew can press the panel into place.

/Höghus
 
Düsseldorff Bergendorff said:
It shouldn't be like that. Installed wall paneling in two rooms last week. Bone dry, perfectly straight, and could be pressed together by hand in most cases. Otherwise block and very light hammer taps. Rejected 5 out of 100 panel boards.
That was what I expected. What kind of panel did you have? Brand and type?
 
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Höghus Höghus said:
It sounds like the panel should be returned, but if for some reason you don't want to, perhaps a mounting prop or two at a slight angle can push the panel into place.

/Höghus
yes, I think so too. But I think it will be difficult, partly because I have to open the packages to see if they are warped. Also, they were purchased at Optimera by a craftsman. So it is the craftsman who should return them, but he doesn't seem very keen on doing it (acquaintance). Additionally, it's an Optimera that is 60 miles away from here.

So personally, I think everything should be replaced, but I realize it can be very difficult.
 
10 mm deviation..
 
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Viktor.J Viktor.J said:
That was what I expected. What kind of panel did you have? Brand and type?
13x95 unpainted beadboard from Valbo Trä.
 
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Düsseldorff Bergendorff said:
13x95 unpainted pearl groove from Valbo Trä.
call Valbo and ask if they are satisfied with the delivered materials to get a dialogue started with them.
 
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M Marcussjogren said:
Call Valbo and ask if they are satisfied with the delivered material so you can start a dialogue with them.
Absolutely, but I was super satisfied. TS is dissatisfied though.
 
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Düsseldorff Bergendorff said:
Absolutely, but I was very pleased. TS is dissatisfied though.
oops sorry - I mixed you up, that's what happens sometimes when you lose focus
 
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