Ossian K Olsson Ossian K Olsson said:
If I hire a craftsman for a lot of money, I expect a better result and a higher level of finesse than this. The only excuse would be if the company was called Bongk å bygg, then you know from the name what you're getting.

My brother had a carpenter come in to do the fine carpentry (moldings, etc) in a kitchen. It turned out incredibly well, and the finish was perfect.

But then you see work like this where TS will probably be irritated by this for the next 20 years (if it lasts that long).

It's unfortunate that hiring craftsmen is such a lottery.
Yeah, but that fence is nothing that a fine carpenter would work on. He probably wouldn't get a single job if he quoted the time it would take.
It's a freaking screwed together fence in pressure-treated timber that's exposed to the elements.
It's really just those spacers, which I thought were cut from a piece of pressure-treated wood, that are somewhat noteworthy.
But it would have been much better to use a 90mm post base.
 
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GoC GoC said:
Yes, but that fence is certainly not something a skilled carpenter would work on. He probably wouldn't get a single job if he quoted the time it would take.
For heaven's sake, it's just a screw-together fence in pressure-treated wood standing in the weather.
It's probably just those spacers that I thought were cut from a piece of pressure-treated wood that are noteworthy.
But it would have been much better to use a 90mm post shoe.
Are you the carpenter maybe?
 
Ossian K Olsson Ossian K Olsson said:
Are you perhaps the carpenter?
I actually somewhat agree. If you want a really nicely built fence with recessed/hidden screws, etc., you have to expect completely different prices as the work time will surely be double.

Now, I'm not saying you should accept poorly executed work, but there should be a measure of the demands considering the price (which we don't know what it was).

Oversized joist hangers are sloppy and poorly installed. But otherwise, I would say it's standard for the fences I've seen built in the areas around me.

(I do everything myself and am meticulous/super slow)
 
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Ossian K Olsson Ossian K Olsson said:
Are you the carpenter, perhaps?
No, I'm an engineer :rofl:
But some seem to have enormous demands for precision on details that in no way affect the function or barely even visible unless you zoom in on a close-up. It will get gray with boards that warp no matter how carefully it is done.
 
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C Cerb said:
I actually agree a little. If you want a really nicely built fence with recessed/hidden screws, etc., you have to expect completely different prices as the work time will surely be double.

Now I'm not saying one should accept poorly done work, but there should be reasonable demands considering the price (which we don't know what it was).

Oversized joist hangers are poorly and sloppily installed. But otherwise, I'd say it's standard for the fences I've seen built around my area.

(I do everything myself and am meticulous/super slow)
Do you think the customer got it cheaper because the carpenter wasn't prepared and got the right material? Look at the top board in picture 2. I think the carpenter doesn't care about leaving a nice and durable result.
 
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Do you think the customer got it cheaper because the carpenter hadn't prepared and got the right material? Look at the top board in picture 2. I think the carpenter doesn't care about leaving a nice and durable result.
What is the wrong material? The pattern is 1 wide, 2 narrow, 1 wide, 2 narrow etc. certainly just as ordered.
 
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What is the wrong material? The pattern is 1 wide, 2 narrow, 1 wide, 2 narrow, etc., surely exactly as ordered.
Don't you see the damage at the top?
Didn't you notice that the post base is for a larger post?
 
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Don't you see the damage at the top?
Accidentally getting a board with dry cracks is hardly the same thing as having the wrong material.

Sure, it's a bit poor not to cut away that part first if possible, but we shouldn't take it to extremes when we exaggerate how bad it is.
 
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The problem is that the company I hired has purchased everything, and I expect the joist hangers and posts to be the same dimensions. Over time, I've noticed several mistakes, for example, that I can scrape off the concrete with my nails. It also seems like they have placed wooden pieces under the joist hangers for support. I don't plan to pay or give them another chance! I've concluded that it's been done very sloppily. Here are more pictures.
 
  • Wooden fence with red circle marking misalignment, supported by a concrete post.
  • Wooden fence with highlighted areas showing poor construction and uneven alignment.
  • Wooden post supported by a beam bracket, with a red circle highlighting a piece of wood inserted under the bracket, on a concrete footing.
  • Wooden beam with metal bracket supported by small wooden pieces on a concrete base. Red circle highlights issue in construction work.
  • Wooden post with metal bracket, supported by small wood piece, on concrete base. Red circle highlights construction error. Outdoors in daylight.
  • Wooden posts with uneven alignment next to a house, surrounded by materials and tools, indicating poorly executed construction work.
  • Metal bracket on wooden post, placed on concrete. Red circle highlights wooden piece supporting the bracket, indicating poor construction.
  • Close-up of a misaligned wooden post in a metal bracket on concrete, showing wooden shims used for support and visible flaws in the concrete surface.
  • Cracked wooden support in metal bracket on concrete base, illustrating construction issues with mismatched materials and poor workmanship.
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