Hi, I have just received some timber from our local sawmill.
Now I wonder how much deviation is allowed in the timber dimensions.
I ordered according to their price list, e.g., 21x95 220 lpm, anything between 20-27 mm and 90-110. Not everything is planed on the backside, and none is planed on the width (only sawn width applies to all timber). Additionally, the planed parts are 25 thick, the thinner ones are sawn, and the thicker ones are also sawn. And the planks are wavy, and by that, I mean not from the saw surface, but the thickness can vary 5mm over 15 cm in length.
And the studs 45x95, 45x120, 45x170, and 45x195 are not planed at all, they are all sawn.
That's completely fine by me, but not all are right-angled; there was up to a 6-degree deviation, meaning they are rhombic.
What do you think, should they take everything back and plane it correctly, or should they collect it all, and I should turn to someone else?
Best regards, Pär H
Now I wonder how much deviation is allowed in the timber dimensions.
I ordered according to their price list, e.g., 21x95 220 lpm, anything between 20-27 mm and 90-110. Not everything is planed on the backside, and none is planed on the width (only sawn width applies to all timber). Additionally, the planed parts are 25 thick, the thinner ones are sawn, and the thicker ones are also sawn. And the planks are wavy, and by that, I mean not from the saw surface, but the thickness can vary 5mm over 15 cm in length.
And the studs 45x95, 45x120, 45x170, and 45x195 are not planed at all, they are all sawn.
That's completely fine by me, but not all are right-angled; there was up to a 6-degree deviation, meaning they are rhombic.
What do you think, should they take everything back and plane it correctly, or should they collect it all, and I should turn to someone else?
Best regards, Pär H
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I have been shopping for similar dimensions "all summer" (21x95 is Bauhaus dimension here at home, otherwise Beijer and Knivsta Bygghandel seem to use 22x95) there are tolerances, I have mixed 21 and 22 without it showing but no one has delivered 27 and all have delivered 95 with +/- 2 mm no more. I think "your" saw seems to have clearly larger tolerances than what I am used to, then it depends on what you're doing if it matters, the price should be lower than the competitors’ with your description as I see it anyway.
Dimensional lumber is usually planed nowadays mainly to ensure it holds up better and doesn't splinter, and so you don't get splinters in your hands while working, right? I thought it had been standard for many years now. If I had received such a delivery from "my" lumberyard, they would have had to come and pick up everything, and I would have bought from someone else instead.
I think the differences are too large, the measurements vary between different saws but the planks should be the same among themselves, 21*95 that varies between 20-27 and 90-110 is not good for anything sensible in my eyes.
that's the charm of a small sawmill.
that the cuts are so different. as a professional, I wouldn't use it on a construction site. but at home, I would use it. because it tends to be cheaper.
that the cuts are so different. as a professional, I wouldn't use it on a construction site. but at home, I would use it. because it tends to be cheaper.
I usually go to the local "bonnsågen" with some logs myself when I need to fix something at home, and sure, it can differ by a millimeter or so, but these deviations are, in my opinion, completely unacceptable!! Talk to them first, but if they’re completely stubborn, just file a complaint!
You're going to have a hell of a time when you try to carpentry with such uneven lumber. Of course, it depends on what you're going to build. Fences, simpler sheds, etc. are fine. But if you're going to build something where you need a finished look on the end result, I would return it right away.
a hell I don't think. just a test of my skill.
one does have to work extra. it's just fun.
one does have to work extra. it's just fun.
Did you order sawn timber or planed?
What will you use it for? Building straight interior walls with plasterboards might be a challenge...
Sounds like it's a sawmill that usually makes timber for simpler agricultural use, etc.
But it should have been clear when you ordered that it wasn't "regular fine timber"
According to the forest industries (via Google), the dimensions should be between -1 / +3mm for sawn timber (-2 / +4mm for dimensions over 100mm).
Planed dimensions timber should be between -0.5 / +0.5mm (-1 / +1mm over 100mm).
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What will you use it for? Building straight interior walls with plasterboards might be a challenge...
Sounds like it's a sawmill that usually makes timber for simpler agricultural use, etc.
But it should have been clear when you ordered that it wasn't "regular fine timber"
According to the forest industries (via Google), the dimensions should be between -1 / +3mm for sawn timber (-2 / +4mm for dimensions over 100mm).
Planed dimensions timber should be between -0.5 / +0.5mm (-1 / +1mm over 100mm).
Edit: Oh dear. Posts flooded in before I had a chance to send...
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The timber will be used for a new facade with concave molding laths (which must be purchased elsewhere as they couldn't provide it), roof trusses, window frames, corner boards, and bargeboards, etc. I am adding insulation to an old construction shed 9.5*2.5 to get better proportions, so there will be a deck along the entire long side, 1.8m deep, and the roof trusses over the entire deck. It is going to be a small guest cabin that my mother-in-law will occupy on weekends.
Regards, Pär H
Regards, Pär H
When I ordered, I mentioned what I would use the wood for and that the facade would be painted with falu rödfärg. I never asked about any tolerances, but I received their price list to take home and calculated what I needed before going down to place the order. They didn't have everything in stock, so they had to cut almost all the paneling and some of the beams.
Best regards, Pär H
Best regards, Pär H
Hello, the father in the family business has been here and he said I could get about 100lpm of 21*95 which is first-class as he put it as a band-aid on the wound if I could accept the deviation on the other timber. But I declined the offer and said that either I pay for what I have already used and they take back everything else or they plane it all down. He will get back to me.
Best regards, Pär H
Best regards, Pär H