An unlikely accident when a 10 kg dumbbell fell down my floating staircase and cracked one of the steps along the wood fibers' length. It's enough to make you cry, but it must be fixed. The wood hasn't completely separated, and I have the opportunity to support it with two angle irons. Of course, I also want to glue the surfaces.

I've worked a bit in construction and regular wood glue has a good reputation for the joint's durability if applied correctly and then pressed during curing. So that's what I'm primarily thinking of. Just wanted to hear if anyone here knows of another glue option that might be even better?
 
Peter2400 Peter2400 said:
Oh dear!

Titebond III is supposed to be the strongest wood glue according to tests I've seen.
But Biltema's might also do the job, depending on the nature of the damage.

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Can't take a picture right now, but the entire step got a crack, releasing about half of the longitudinal fibers across the step's width. By "half," I mean it's still holding together but is cracked, and the glue surface corresponds to the upper cracked fibers. The steps rest on two massive brackets on a 10 cm wooden beam, and the crack is just outside the screw attachment on the brackets.

I have no hope of achieving full strength with just glue (I assume?), so the plan is to fabricate two sturdy angle irons that are both 90 degrees and twisted so they can be screwed vertically into the side of the beams and horizontally under the step, extending out on the overhang.
 
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The glue is not the problem, regular white glue is stronger than the wood. The problem is if there are chips across the grain, it can be difficult to get a proper glue joint. Is it possible to access it with clamps or something else to achieve adequate pressure?
Sometimes it might be good to completely break off the piece, remove splinters, and apply glue to the entire fracture surface.

Protte
 
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prototypen prototypen said:
The glue is not the problem, regular white glue is stronger than the wood itself. The issue is if there are wood chips across the surface, then it can be difficult to achieve a proper glue joint. Can you use a clamp or something else to apply proper pressure? Sometimes it can be good to completely break off the piece, clear away splinters, and apply glue to the entire fracture surface.

Protte
Unfortunately, I can't show a picture during the day, but there are indeed splinters in the fracture surface. However, they're not small splinters, but rather one or two large longitudinal ones. So far, I haven't done anything, but I imagine it should be possible to press together for a tight joint. At least half of the wood under the fracture surface (it was of course broken from the top where the dumbbell hit) is still intact. I can slightly loosen the substantial wood screws that have pressed down the step since the fracture surface is near the screw attachments. Breaking away the piece is probably not a good option since the splinters are so thick that it would create gaps.

If it really is the case that the glue joint in regular white wood glue of decent quality is stronger than the wood itself, then you shouldn't even need to supplement with troublesome angle brackets? It should be considered, however, that I do put weight on just the protruding part of the step when I walk up the stairs.
 
Glue, fix, press, wait a week.
The biggest mistake when gluing is not waiting long enough.
 
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Isakare Isakare said:
Glue, fix, clamp, wait a week.
Biggest mistake when gluing, not waiting long enough.
When gluing regular wood, the usual drying time is 15-20 minutes under pressure and full load before 24 hours.
When I'm working on cutting boards and am in a bit of a hurry, it's no problem to run them through a plane after 1-2 hours.
 
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Sounds like me, provided I get the joint surface tight, that I don't need to worry about angle iron at all? And for that matter, I don't need to get anything other than a decent 'ordinary' white wood glue? Everyone agree on this? :)
 
A Argastesnickaren said:
When gluing regular wood, the typical drying time is 15-20 minutes under pressure and full load before 24 hours.
When I work with cutting boards and am a bit rushed, there's no problem running through a planer after 1-2 hours.
Sure, but if you exaggerate the waiting time, you are 1000% sure, applies to anything that needs to dry/harden.
 
D DanMicke said:
Sounds like me, provided I can get the fracture surface tight, as if I don't need to worry about angle iron at all? And in that case, I don't need to get anything other than decent 'regular' white wood glue? Everyone agree on this? :)
If I see a picture that looks promising, I probably agree. It's important to achieve good gluing surfaces.
 
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Isakare Isakare said:
Yes, but if you exaggerate the wait time, you're 1000% sure, applies to everything that needs to dry/harden.
I'm the kind of renovator who does most things with great patience, so I might skip the step for a week or so. A big piece of painter's tape as a 'warning' probably wouldn't hurt ;)
 
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Hep Hep said:
If I see a picture that looks hopeful, then I probably agree. It's important to get good bonding surfaces.
I'll take a picture later and post it here so you can comment. No rush since I have an ongoing facade renovation. Taking a big step on the stairs for now ;)
 
Big leap sounds good. What could go wrong?
A cartoon character slipping and falling on stairs, losing a hat and pieces of wood flying around.
 
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Hep Hep said:
Big step sounds good. What could go wrong?
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Here is my self-built staircase that I like and hope to fix after the fatal incident that happened and pictures of the crack. Hope it looks doable? A homemade staircase with a visible crack on one of the wooden steps, next to a green plant. Close-up of a wooden staircase showing a large crack running through one of the steps, part of a repair project. A close-up of a wooden stair tread with a noticeable crack down the center, highlighting damage in a DIY staircase project.
 
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D DanMicke said:
Here is my self-built staircase that I like and hope to fix after the fatal incident that happened and pictures of the crack. Hope it looks doable? [image] [image] [image]
That staircase doesn't look sturdy. Get an accident insurance.

If you built the staircase, you can replace the broken board but make sure to put up a warning sign ”Max 70 kg”
 
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