Hi!

Maybe I'm posting in the wrong thread now, but I'll give it a try. I've seen numerous threads about similar issues, but mine seems to be uniquely problematic.

According to the pictures, I have an open staircase, and every step creaks loudly when walked on. I have a theory that the balustrade contributes to the sound, as there is a noise coming from the attachment point in the joist on the side.
The step itself makes the most noise, and if you silence it by placing lots of wood scraps between the steps, it becomes completely silent. But that's obviously not a viable solution!
The steps attached to the stringer don't have any screws that can be tightened; they're secured with some kind of flat bolt.

1. Is the balustrade important, does it support the staircase in any way?
2. How can I make the steps silent without angle screwing or closing off the staircase?

Thanks in advance.
 
  • Open wooden staircase with visible steps, handrail, and a balustrade. The floor is tiled and a couch is seen below.
  • Open wooden staircase with a railing; steps creak loudly when walked on. Posts are attached to the stringer, contributing to the noise, with no visible screws.
  • Wooden staircase with a railing, showing a plant at the top landing and various items on the floor below.
The trellis has no load-bearing function whatsoever. The staircase itself does not appear to be under-dimensioned either. Most indications point to some form of installation error. There is a mini beam under each step that is supposed to provide reinforcement. There seems to be a gap between the step and the mini beam. If that's the case, it's wrong. These two parts should ideally be glued to each other.
 
J justusandersson said:
The trellis has no bearing function whatsoever. The staircase itself also doesn't seem to be under-dimensioned. Most likely, it's some form of installation error. There is a mini-beam under each step that is supposed to stiffen it. There appears to be a gap between the tread and the mini-beam. If that is the case, it is wrong. These two parts should ideally be glued together.
Hi
Isn't it just meant to protect small curious children from crawling through? Like a child safety list or whatever it's called. I have also read that there should be a gap (spacer exists) precisely so it doesn't creak. But you mean it could be the other way around too, i.e., glued directly to prevent creaking.
 
The mini bar under the steps is a safety rail and it should not be glued. Can TS take a picture of the flat bolt?
 
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Immobil Immobil said:
The mini-rail under the ladder is a child protection strip and it should not be glued. Can TS take a picture of the flat bolt?
Here comes a picture (tried to dig to see if it should have been a hexagon head but didn't see any)
 
  • Wooden board with visible screw hole, no hexagon head found.
It depends on the dimensions of the treads. It can be a child protection strip or a reinforcement. If it is a child protection strip, it should be placed at a distance. Stairs without risers are sensitive. The best thing is to first rule out the dimensions of the treads. Then you can consider other causes. What are the dimensions of the treads? Is it solid wood?
 
J justusandersson said:
It depends on the dimensions of the treads. It could be a child protection list or it could be reinforcement. If it is a child protection list, it should have a spacer. Stairs without risers are sensitive. The best thing is to first rule out the dimensions of the treads. Then you can consider other causes. What are the dimensions of the treads? Is it solid wood?
The steps measure 285x40x850. No idea about the type of wood. Could it be the nose or the black top layer rubbing against the stringer?
 
Everything that moves can creak; the more you stiffen things up, the fewer movements you have that can cause noise.
Regardless of what we call the strip under the step, if you glue and screw it to the step, the movement is reduced.
It may not silence everything, but it will certainly get better.
 
The step dimensions are completely adequate. A 100 kg person causes a deflection of 0.75 mm which is perfectly acceptable. The problems likely lie in the attachment of the steps.
 
Saw this now as I'm crawling around. Looks like it dropped from upstairs. In theory, isn't the whole staircase crooked now?
 
  • Close-up of a wooden staircase joint showing a gap where the stair seems to have shifted, possibly causing misalignment.
Start by lifting the vangen and attaching it to the wall or joist. The screw head in the step appears damaged.
 
The steps that creak can be fixed by screwing diagonally under the steps into the stringer. For heaven's sake, do not use glue!! You'll have problems if you do.
 
Immobil Immobil said:
Start by lifting up the stringer and attach it to the wall or the joist. The screw head in the step looks damaged.
My knife is the culprit for the screw head. Attaching the stringer will have to be done by someone more experienced. There's only drywall on that side, and a few studs of course.
 
Immobil Immobil said:
The steps that creak can be fixed by screwing obliquely under the steps into the stringer. For heaven's sake, don't use glue!! Then you'll have problems.
All of them creak, I can try screwing obliquely a bit, as long as the screw hides in the step. Now I've set up the steps according to the picture and find it hard to believe that a screw in the sides will silence the wood.
 
  • Wooden staircase with open risers and dark-colored treads, viewed from above, potentially causing creaking issues.
Countersink the screw, then it is barely visible.
 
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