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Of course, they say so, and it usually works. But for laymen, it's much easier to get 100% bubble-free if you glue the strip. I can't see anything technical that makes it worse in any way. Applying the strip in wet putty is obviously faster.
 
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We laymen rarely have multiple projects to practice spackling, and the gluing method becomes the safe way to achieve a good result. Moreover, we do not work on piece rates, so the time it takes matters less.
 
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Use disc spackle!
Gluing just takes time..
 
I do like norgips and it goes very quickly and so far it has held up well, and even I as an office worker can manage it.

First, I fill the trench with joint compound so it is filled to an even level. It's important to use plenty of wet compound for the paper tape to adhere without bubbles.

Then I place the paper tape centered in the trench and press it down lightly with my fingers.

Once it's in place, I apply a thin layer of joint compound over the tape and try to achieve an even coating.

Let it dry. Sand if necessary, then apply a final layer of joint compound in a slightly wider profile so it's even and nice.

Sand and prime :)
 
Mazen Mazen said:
The only thing that works...
[link]
J spackel is otherwise specifically for taping...
 
These threads always become a mix of "that's how I've always done it" and know-it-alls who are proud they can embed a strip in plaster without gluing.....mostly unaware that gluing is better.

I suggest the congregation reads http://ybg.nu/index.php, here it explains how to do it and why.

It's a shame that this great page gets lost in the noise about how gypsum is used in wet rooms when searching for info.
 
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Haha I've always done it wrong in other words.
I usually buy that kind of tape roll with net-like material.
I pull it over the seams and then press putty like crazy there and then putty over it.
All in one go. I've actually only wallpapered, never painted walls.
Maybe it's lucky that I've always gotten good results that last :)
 
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MathiasS MathiasS said:
These threads always become a mix of "this is how I've always done it" and know-it-alls who are proud that they can tape a joint without gluing... mostly unaware that gluing is better.

I suggest the congregation reads [link], here it says how to do it and why.

It's a shame that this fine page gets drowned out by the noise about how drywall is used in wet rooms when searching for info.
I'm even more confused now, it doesn't say anything about gluing the tape under "6.3 Execution of jointing" in the YBG document 2015. I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I attempt to tape my first drywall. It's so incredibly confusing how to do it; I have bought paper tape and Alcros joint filler. But then someone says to glue with cloth adhesive, others with wet room adhesive.

For good adhesion between the tape and the filler layer it is necessary that this is about 1–1.5 mm thick. Immediately thereafter, the joint tape is placed in the wet filler and pressed down by running the jointing tool along the joint so that the tape is lightly covered with filler. - 6.3.1 First jointing on a joint with a recessed long edge
Is this then how it should be done?
 
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First, apply filler, place the strip, and immediately apply a thin layer of filler on top. Let it dry, then apply filler again. If you have beveled seams, it may be easier to apply filler, let it dry, and glue the strip with regular fabric glue. Let it dry, then apply filler on top. Wet room glue is just troublesome to use; it doesn't improve the result. It's the strength of the filler and the strip reinforcing the filler that are decisive. Let the strip stay glued for a few minutes so it doesn't bubble on the wall.
 
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Bo arnold Bo arnold said:
First apply putty, lay the tape in place, and apply a thin layer of putty on top. Let it dry and apply a second layer of putty. If you have joints that aren't beveled, it might be easier to apply putty, let it dry, and then glue the tape on with regular fabric glue, let it dry, and apply putty on top. Wet room glue is just troublesome to use and doesn't improve the result. It’s the strength of the putty and the tape that reinforces the putty that is crucial. Let the tape stay pasted for a few minutes so it doesn't bubble on the wall.
Yes, I was just thinking that the putty is specifically for plasterboard. And everything I've read or watched instructions for never mentions glue. I understand that it works if many say it works. But as someone wrote in this thread, I don't really have anything to practice on with different techniques.
 
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I'm getting even more confused now, there's nothing about gluing the strip under "6.3 Execution of Spackling" in the YBG document 2015. I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I start spackling my first gypsum walls. It's so incredibly confusing on how to do it, I've bought paper strips and Alcro's joint filler. But then someone says you should glue with fabric adhesive, others with wet room adhesive.

Is this the way you should do it?
The latest edition, 6.3.2, do this on all types of joints. Fill the joint between the boards so you get a smooth transition, Glue with fabric adhesive and lay in the paper strip.

Regarding the adhesive, it's a fabric adhesive with a solid content below 20% you should look for. It's typically a wet room adhesive that meets this. Ask in the store and you'll get the right one.

Don't complicate this unnecessarily. It's not difficult to do it right. Even a total beginner can glue the strips so there's no reason to try to spackle in the strips, especially since it doesn't make it better (it just goes faster which doesn't matter to you).
 
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MathiasS MathiasS said:
The latest edition, 6.3.2, does so on all sorts of joints. Fill in the joint between the boards so you get a smooth transition, glue with vävlim and insert the paper strip.

Regarding the glue, you should look for vävlim with a solids content under 20%. It is typically a våtrumslim that fulfills this. Ask in the store and you will get the right one.

Do not complicate this unnecessarily. It's not hard to do it right. Even a total beginner can glue the strips so there is no reason to try and mud the strips, especially since it doesn't make it better anyway (it just goes faster which doesn't matter to you).
Do you have any glue that you recommend?
 
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