Planning to replace my door frames since they are of an older model and the gabon doors are really ugly and worn out. The doors are uneven against the door leaf, etc., so now I'm thinking of tearing the hell out. The plan is to replace a total of 5 frames.
What's it like around the frame in a house where there is tretex in the walls? Currently, the door frame is 818x2066mm. The door leaf is 722x2013mm.
How tricky is it to switch to a frame like this? https://www.byggmax.se/dörrar/karm-och-tröskel/dörrkarmar/karmpaket-vit-p6612001
Karmpaket Vit
80x200cm, thickness of the frame 93mm, incl. lintel and threshold 80 cm 200 cm 92 mm
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Karmpaket Vit
80x210cm, thickness of the frame 93mm, incl. lintel and threshold 80 cm 210 cm 92 mm
What does the framework look like inside the wall? I think the frame is assembled and only glued together at the finger joints in the corners...
Do you have to remove studs around to fit the frame, and if so, just bring out the circular saw and cut open? Are there double studs so you manage, or do you need to fasten new ones?
Remove the trim so you can see how large the door opening in the wall is, and you should be able to see the nails or screws that the frame is attached with.
You can remove the frame either by unscrewing the screws, sawing in the gap with a reciprocating saw, or cutting the frame apart and prying it loose with a crowbar.
Well, this is the tricky part. It seems that the frame and molding are in one piece. There are also no screws on the sides of the frame or at the top of the architrave. So there's not much to remove directly..
So the brown molding is the frame..
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The doorframe can be built into the wall in prefab elements, as it is in our house from 1966. Our doorframes have milled grooves on the outside where the chipboards that make up the wall are glued. So there are no studs directly around the frame; the frame itself constitutes the stud, casing, and frame in one. If that's the case, you just need to take out the circular saw and cut around the frame. Then you have to insert studs between the wall panels to have something to attach the new frame to.
I would say that it is as you describe. I bought the house from my dad, he removed a door 20 years ago and said it was built together with the frame, but didn't exactly remember how it looked.
But that the frame, trim, and whole kit is one piece...
How do you attach these new studs? Is it just a matter of screwing the stud into the wall from both sides? That is, placing a stud on each side and over the lintel?
The door frame may be built together with the wall in pre-fab elements, as it is in our house from 1966. Our door frames have routed grooves outward that the chipboard, which constitutes the wall, is glued into. So there are no studs directly around the frame; the frame itself serves as stud, trim, and frame in one. If that's the case, you just need to bring out the circular saw and cut around the frame. Then you'll need to insert studs between the wall panels to have something to attach the new frame to.
The door frame seems to be 818x2066. Then it shouldn't be too difficult to fit a frame with dimensions 790x2090x68? You really just need to open up the door at the top. Those of you living in tretex houses, what does it look like above the doors? Is there plank there, or studs? In any case, you should just be able to cut away some material with the circular saw and then slot in the frame?
Why should you change the frame?
My son wanted to change the doors in his condo association from the 60s. He found new door leaves online that are made to fit old frames. And they fit perfectly!
They might be a bit more expensive door leaves, but you avoid all the work except maybe sanding/painting the old frames.
How do you attach these new studs? Is it just a matter of screwing the stud into the wall from both sides? That is, placing a stud on each side and over the head plate?
Yes, that's how it was for me. However, the distance between the wall panels wasn't according to a standard rule, I think it was 50 mm, so it required customized (split) studs.
Why do you want to replace the frame?
My son wanted to change the doors in his BRF which were from the 60s. He found new door leaves online that are made to fit old frames. And they fit like a glove!
They might be a bit more expensive door leaves but you avoid all the work except maybe sanding/painting the old frames.
I would prefer to replace the door frames because they are very ugly, worn out, the doors are crooked in the frame, different gaps everywhere and not adjustable.
I would prefer to replace the door frames because they are very ugly, worn out, the doors are crooked in the frame, gaps everywhere, and not adjustable.
In other words, not a lot of work to put in a new frame. Cut the studs to length and fasten and put in the frame?
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