J Jarlsgård said:
Are you planning to have a ceiling in the porch vestibule? If yes, you can always attach the carrier beam inside the posts and use another type of roof truss in the middle. This way you can raise the carrier beam slightly in height, achieving more of the aesthetic you desire :)

That is,

Have the roof trusses that you planned at the front/back edge. In the middle, attach carrier beams on the inside of the post (notch in) between those 2. Additionally, if you place a carrier beam above the posts at the "opening," you can reduce the dimensions of the carrier beams and only need to lay 2 joists on it. It doesn't need to be a truss in itself. Moreover, this construction is preferable since it facilitates the installation of a ceiling[y]
Not entirely sure what you mean :P
I'll probably order the roof trusses as planned; I could order the middle one in a different design, but thought it might be cheaper/easier with 3 identical ones.
I selected the thick carrier beams because I believe that thickness will look best if they need to be visible since other details are "thick."
I think it's better than a visible "thin" carrier beam.

We're planning to have a ceiling with recessed spotlights. But that's easily affixed to the roof trusses I intend to have since all 3 are at the same level. However, I'll be placing joists between the trusses as the ceiling should align with the floor.
 
Hmm.. I might have to draw it out because I admit that my explanation is a bit too vague! I'll get back with a sketch tonight ;)
 
Hand-drawn sketch of a simple building structure with labeled beams on lined paper, titled "Amatör edition!

Or something like that :rofl:
 
I have built a veranda 4 x 2m with a folded metal roof and outlets at the corners. Downspouts have not been needed as the water is thrown far enough out from the veranda. The posts are 115x115 mm. The ceiling is built with visible joists and a beam attached to the facade. It has some similarities to the veranda you are planning to build.
Veranda with metal roof and decorative railing, attached to a red wooden house. Visible posts are 115x115 mm. Mention of a building technique in the description.
 
  • A red house with a small porch featuring decorative railings, wooden posts, and a pitched roof. Decorated with potted plants and patio furniture on the lawn.
  • Wooden veranda with exposed beams and a small light fixture, overlooking a garden with trees in the background.
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J Jarlsgård said:
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Or something like that :rofl:
Thanks for the sketch :) Now it seems we have changed our minds quite a bit in execution here at home after a little discussion tonight :P

O ozean said:
Built a veranda 4 x 2m with a folded metal roof and outlets in the corners. Downpipes haven't been needed as the water is thrown far enough out from the veranda. The posts are 115x115 mm. The inner ceiling is built of visible joists with a carrying beam attached to the façade. There are some similarities with the veranda you plan to build.
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Charming! Real craftsmanship :) Thanks for the inspiration!

After the discussion tonight, it's starting to lean towards something like the image below (quick sketch)... definitely another pain for the wallet now haha. Maybe we'll go down a bit in thickness on the posts since they alone cost quite a bit with 1600x1600
3D sketch of a house with a porch featuring detailed posts, railings, an orange awning, and a pitched roof, set against a grassy background.
 
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American porch is absolutely nice! But that little angle for the actual entrance I would probably skip! It's a bit too much imo :)

An important thing to consider with such thoughts is, however, light entry. Such a structure can really steal a lot of light from the house, so I feel that both the direction and whether there is light coming in from multiple sides should be considered.

North + only windows in that direction can become really dark! Especially in the rooms with the small windows :)
 
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LinusW LinusW said:
After tonight's discussion, it's starting to lean towards something like the image below (quick sketch)... definitely a different pain for the wallet now haha. Maybe I'll go down a bit in thickness on the posts since they cost quite a bit with 1600x1600
Do you mean 160x160? Otherwise, I understand why it's expensive...
 
J Jarlsgård said:
American porch is absolutely nice! But that little angle for the entrance itself I would probably skip! It becomes a bit too much imo:)

It's important to consider light entry with these kinds of ideas. Such a feature can steal significant light from the house, so I think both the cardinal direction and whether there's light entry from multiple sides should be considered.

North + only windows in that direction can become really dark! Especially in rooms with small windows :)
Both I and my wife would like to have an element of saddle roof, this became the first sketch on the new one. I think I'll move it in so it aligns with the rest of the porch without the overhang and make it 4m wide instead of 2 as in the picture.

Yes, light entry is definitely something I have in mind. Unfortunately, this is the north side, but I think we are prepared to compromise on that. The small windows are for the toilet and stairs, the toilet has frosted glass and I don't think that window contributes at all to light entry at present, so it probably won't make much difference, the stairs might get a bit dark but not the end of the world. To the right is the laundry room, so it doesn't matter as much plus there will probably be some light spill from the corner. The double windows are to the kitchen, this is where we feel we might actually miss out on pleasant light. One thought was to let the porch end before the kitchen window, but we decided we would rather have it all the way.

T Troberg said:
Do you mean 160x160? Otherwise, I understand why it's expensive...
Of course, it's 16cm posts and nothing else, typo. In my sketch of the frame, I wrote 160*160. Posts at 1600 are not exactly posts.
 
Hi, saw that the design has shifted to an American porch. I'm attaching some pictures of ours that we're building now. A simple construction with 120 x120 posts and 170 timber. Sheet metal covered with shiny aluminum and other metal details as well as the panel ceiling remain. Building an American-style porch with 120x120 posts in front of a white house, featuring drills and flowers on the wooden deck. A person working on a wooden veranda with tall wooden posts in front of a white house, construction in progress. A wooden porch under construction with 120x120 posts on a white house, featuring black doors and potted flowers. American-style veranda construction in progress with 120x120 posts and 170 beams. White house exterior and rock wall visible in a sunny garden setting. Close-up of wooden beams and posts being constructed for an American-style porch. Wooden porch construction with 120x120 posts and 170 timber beams attached to a white house. Surrounding garden has gravel paths and potted plants. A person in a hoodie and gloves stands on a ladder, working with a power tool on wooden beams of a porch under construction. A partially constructed American-style porch with a wooden frame and tools visible. A person is working on the roof, and there's a ladder leaning against the house. Wooden frame of a partially built American-style veranda on a house, featuring unfinished roof and construction materials like a ladder and panels nearby.
 
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Zinkadus Zinkadus said:
Hi, I noticed that the design has shifted to an American porch. I'm attaching some pictures of ours that we are currently building. A simple construction with 120 x 120 posts and 170 timber. Band-covered shiny aluminum and other sheet metal details as well as the panel ceiling remain.[image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image]
Looks great! Thanks for the pictures :)
How deep are you making yours? I'm wondering if 2m will feel cramped if you want to sit a few people and maybe have a table etc.
 
LinusW LinusW said:
Nice! Thanks for the pictures :)
How deep are you making it? I'm wondering if 2m will feel cramped if you want to fit a few people

The decking is 180 cm deep and I would have liked to make it bigger, the bigger the better...but we can't build it bigger as we have a maximum "open area" limit of 15 sqm. If you have the opportunity, build bigger!
 
I think we have 25 sqm according to the zoning plan.
Planning to build 12 m wide, so then it will only be 2 m deep.
 
LinusW LinusW said:
I think we have 25 sqm according to the detailed plan.
Planning to build 12m wide, so then it will be only 2m deep that applies.
We built 12.5m wide and 2 meters deep
 
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