New central - is this installation okay?

[SueCia]

This seems to be a job done "on the side"

A Sunday?

We hardly find out if the electrician is contracted seriously and if the welfare gets to partake in the capital flow?

Lol…

 

[Fotografen]

What does it matter?

An electrician who has had his business for 10 years and has a turnover of around 2 million kronor. During the weeks, he mostly does work for the real estate company Alecta and Scania.

Tragic.
Placing all spare wire outside the box and garnishing with sugar cubes is unprofessional. Possibly inexperienced with installation jobs in homes, only industrial?
Place two two-row standard boxes next to each other.

 

[SoderD]

There is some missing information in the central listing, like rated current and area, but it's not a disaster. I think it looked decent anyway. I don't understand the thing with so many personal protection circuit breakers, but that's a matter of taste and not directly wrong.

Placing the residual current device on the right on the middle row, even though according to the documentation it protects the entire middle row and lower row, is a bit odd, but not wrong.

The most serious issue we can see from the pictures is clearly the insulated conductors outside the panel and the large cutout in the casing.

Yes, number 17 also has number 1 as a residual current device. Which seems illogical to me. But yeah, maybe it doesn't matter.

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Jakopp]

Feel free to upload a picture with the cover removed so we can probably see quite a bit. Preferably several pictures.

 

[SoderD]

Feel free to upload a picture with the cover removed so we can probably see a lot. Preferably several pictures

Nice!

 

[jonaserik]

There is nothing wrong per se, you can create a box over everything on the top side and then it becomes a channelization. There is no information about it; there can be as many tampar as you want in such a box. However, the plica from the ceiling should be connected with a hose and not hang freely in the air. The same goes for what comes from the left, no tampar in the air.
The thing with sugar cubes doesn't look good, it should be connected with crimp connectors, the tampar have been too short to reach into the central, which is not unusual when replacing a central. As it looks now outside, one might wonder how råttbot looks inside the central.

 

[MathiasS]

I don't understand why one doesn't just reroute the cables that may become too short. We rerouted EVERYTHING to the first junction box when I built new panels, and I think it took me and dad 3-4 hours. That way it becomes neat with pipes all the way into the panel, etc.

 

[Uffe A]

What difference does it make?

An electrician who has had his business for 10 years and has a turnover of around 2 million kronor. During the weeks, he mostly works for the real estate company Alecta and Scania.

It plays a significant role
Check if he is registered with the Elsäkerhetsverket, as it looks like he should not be dealing with electrical installations

 

[jonaserik]

I don't understand why you don't just reroute the cables that might become too short. We rerouted EVERYTHING to the first junction box when I built new panels, I think it took me and my dad 3-4 hours. Then it looks neat with pipes going all the way into the panel, etc.

Money, money.

Then it doesn't look so bad with my feared rat's nest, probably can't be done any other way, except for what I wrote earlier and others as well.

 

[jonaserik]

It plays a significant role
Check if he is registered with the Elsäkerhetsverket; it seems he shouldn't handle electrical installation

There you go again, pointing and directing in different directions as usual. If it's an electrician who did it, likely no novice would be able to put it together. And if he does a good job so TS gets it much cheaper, then it's up to TS and not something the forum should have concerns about. Don't come talking about any insurance companies and such, as is usually done. That is not relevant in the whole matter. But strangely, no one has had any opinions on my post #21, but of course, it's completely acceptable, and then there are other opinions instead. The forum is not a police to legalize, but informatively say something about something, and it can be done in a mild tone and not as something that should/must, as it is always presented in.

 

[Uffe A]

There you go again, pointing out, giving directives in different directions as usual. If it's an electrician who did it, probably no amateur could put it together. And if they do a job in a way that TS gets it much cheaper, then it's up to TS and not something for you on the forum to have concerns about. Don't come and mention any insurance company or anything else, as is usually done. It's not relevant in the whole matter. But strangely, nobody has had any opinions on my post # 21, but sure that's entirely acceptable and then there are other opinions instead. The forum is not a police to legalize, but to informatively say something about something and it can be done in a mild tone and not as something should/must as it is always presented.

I have a question for you
Is it allowed to have single-insulated conductors outside the enclosure?
From the looks of it, I question the installer's competence.

 

[SoderD]

I have a question for you
Is it allowed to have single-insulated conductors outside the enclosure?
As it seems, I'm questioning the installer's competence

If you want to question the installer's competence, you can create your own thread. I want help with what's wrong with the installation and what I can do about it.

 

[Jakopp]

My assumption is that it's an older industrial electrician who typically doesn't do work for private individuals with aesthetic requirements. Another might not use one-stop connectors and OBO surge protection. It also looks to be at least 10mm2 RK.

I would have required the following:

- Replace splices with compression splices

- Arrange labeling and group coverage (preferably proper pen marking)

- Address exposed single-insulated conductors either by preparing for a new box/enclosure or moving the panel up

- Preferably install end caps on the phase bar

In addition, some of the feeds are sloppily routed inside the panel, but that's more of an order issue.

 

[SoderD]

My prejudice is that it's typically an older industrial electrician who doesn't usually do jobs for private individuals with aesthetic requirements.

I would have demanded the following:

Replace joints with crimp joints

Arrange with labeling and group indication

Address the visible single insulated conductors either by preparing for a new box/enclosure or by moving up the panel

Moreover, some of the feeds are carelessly routed inside the panel, but that is more of a matter of order

Awesome, thanks!

 

[jonaserik]

I have a question for you
Is it allowed to have single-insulated conductors outside the enclosure?
As it appears, I am questioning the installer’s competence.

Answer no, not according to the book, but it has not been revealed if it is finished yet, but maybe. With your background and the work you have, you must come up with something. Why not just calmly say that it is not good and should be addressed. Without having to bring in a bunch of musts and the electrical safety authority. In other respects, it's just a little additional protection that is needed.

If you want to question the installer’s competence, you can create your own thread. I want help with what is wrong with the installation and what I can do about it.

There is nothing wrong there directly, but if it is supposed to be finished, then it is not. It needs a bit more order in certain places, and it is the electrician who should arrange that, then you need to fix something like a box above the distribution board so that it looks neat.