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Mikael_L Mikael_L said:
Absolutely, the central unit shown in the thread's initial image is criminally poorly done. Criminal in the true sense of the word, as it's quite simply not a legal execution.

File a report to the Swedish National Electrical Safety Board, and help get the worst offenders out of the industry.
Suppose one mounted the central unit so it covered the pipes "in" the wall and placed two pieces of conduit on those coming down from the ceiling. The joints ended up "in" the central unit. Would that have been OK? I guess it's not OK to just put a board in front, since the wires aren't allowed to go "loose" in the wall? So in this case, is it impossible to fix the problem without a new casing?

What if the central unit could be moved up 10cm, and nothing "pops up" on the lower edge? One might wonder why they set the central unit so the cables are exposed? It feels like a total meltdown when the person who installed it was thinking? Could it have been that it was eleven o'clock on a Sunday evening, and this was thrown together because it was started with incorrect materials and couldn't be left with all the electricity disconnected?

I wonder how our electrician did it; I moved the central unit from upstairs (old overhead line) to the basement. But I THINK he let the old one remain and only needed a short power cut...
 
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J JohanLun said:
Say you installed the central unit so it covered the pipes "in" the wall and put two pieces of hose on those coming from up in the ceiling. The joints ended up "in" the central unit. Would that have been OK? I assume it's not OK to just put a board in front, because the wires shouldn't run "loosely" in the wall? So in this case, it's impossible to fix the problem without a new enclosure?

If the central unit couldn't be moved up 10cm, and nothing "pops up" on the lower edge? One might wonder why they placed the central unit in such a way that the cables are exposed? It feels like a total meltdown when the person who installed it was thinking? Could it be that it was eleven o'clock on a Sunday night and they threw this together because they had started but had the wrong materials and couldn't leave it with all the electricity disconnected?

Wondering how our electrician did it, I moved the central unit from the upper floor (old overhead line) to the basement. But I THINK he left the old one in place and just needed about an hour's interruption...
The execution can be a bit all over on a gray scale.

If the pipes/hoses were extended, a central unit with a back piece installed, all pipes/hoses routed into the central unit in exact holes for each pipe through the back piece (or on one of the central unit's sides), it would have been an absolutely 100% flawless and perfect execution.
Then the regulations would probably also accept that there's a hole in the wall above the central unit, though not the aesthetics.

Instead of extending with flex conduit/pipe, if one uses PVC conduit, we quickly fall into the gray area. It's better if it's entirely "behind" the central that's protected with hose, worse if something accessible only has PVC conduit as extra protection.

Similarly with a central unit without a back, it's better with one, but maybe OK, though not as good, with a central without a back.

Covering the hole seen in the picture in the thread start with, for example, a plank or a piece of gypsum board doesn't give a correct execution, but it's better than it is now. Then it becomes just dark dark gray instead of pitch black.
It would be better to put a wide cable duct over it somehow, and let all FK come in from the pipes there first, before continuing into the central unit.

So you can discuss back and forth like that; it's actually not uncommon to be forced to fudge something, you simply slide into the gray scale, but it's important to be careful not to slip too far.

The work this thread starts with, however, is undoubtedly below all criticism, it should both be reported and demanded to be redone - completely free of charge. The electrician who leaves something like that behind should look for another profession, simply put.
 
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Conducted an inspection of the central unit and got the following response:

Faults and not approved:
- Single-insulated cables outside the central unit

Faults and maybe a bit strange, but approved:
- Illogical arrangement of the residual-current circuit breaker and fuses in the central unit
- Placement of the cabinet, it could easily be placed over the hole in the wall
- Connectors should be clamps
- Numbering is written with a pen and looks ugly
 
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SoderD SoderD said:
Did an inspection of the panel and got the response:

Errors and not approved:
- Single insulated cables outside the panel

Errors and maybe a bit strange, but approved:
- Illogical with the ground fault circuit interrupter and the arrangement of fuses in the panel
- Placement of the cabinet, could easily be placed over the hole in the wall
- The sugar cubes should be clamps
- Numbering is written in pencil and looks bad
Have you filed a complaint?
 
K karlmb said:
Did you file a complaint?
Yes, we have had a good dialogue. So a large part will be addressed during tomorrow. Not everything but enough anyway.
 
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SoderD SoderD said:
Yes, we have had a good dialogue. So a large part will be addressed during tomorrow. Not everything, but enough at least
The most important thing is unprotected single conductors.
The rest are not actually dangerous. Not correct, but not dangerous.
 
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