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RoTe RoTe said:
Yet another example that one should not hire tradespeople. Unfortunately, you're not allowed to do this yourself, but most handy people would have done a better job.
The majority of tradespeople are good, so don't paint all tradespeople with the same brush. Many things can be done by yourself if you're handy, but there are many things you absolutely should not do yourself. What this electrician was thinking, nobody knows except him, but it's not done correctly, that much is clear.
 
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P Pyret685 said:
The majority of craftsmen are good, so don't paint all craftsmen with the same brush.
That's where I'm not willing to agree. I would say there are about 4 bad craftsmen per 1 good one.
 
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Good craftsmen tend to overcharge you instead. It's almost hopeless not to be scammed by a craftsman in one way or another.
 
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S SueCia said:
That's where I'm not willing to agree. I would say there are about 4 bad craftsmen for every 1 good one.
Then you must have had very bad luck, I must say. The craftsmen who have been at my home—carpenters, plumbers, electricians, masons, and painters—have been very good and did a really good job.

Asking friends and acquaintances if they know good craftsmen can get you far. Getting a proper quote where everything is clearly specified, both what is to be done and the price, can take you even further. Offering coffee can go a long way. Show respect and you will receive respect. Of course, there are bad craftsmen, but they exist in all professions. Jerks are everywhere; the important thing is to learn to "filter" them out and choose the skilled ones, because the majority are good and many have a wonderful professional pride 🙂.
 
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I had a new electrical panel installed yesterday and I'm wondering if this installation is okay? I guess I can put some cabinet or something over it but want to first ensure that this is correct.

I'm a bit surprised by the placement but I don't know myself if it's safe or not in terms of electrical safety
No, it shouldn't look like that. They could have put a wide channel over it, which should be approved for loose fq (the electrical wires).
 
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RoTe RoTe said:
Good craftsmen tend to overcharge instead. It's somewhat hopeless not to be scammed by a contractor in one way or another.
I disagree. I haven't hired a lot on my own, but as far as I can recall, there are about 8 or 9 different ones, plus some subcontractors to them.

Of them, I was scammed by one, who did a very good job but overcharged hours grossly. He billed for more hours than he worked for me. There were about 100% more hours on the invoice. We adjusted it down to the previously estimated time, which was still significantly more hours than he actually worked.

Someone did work that turned out to be mediocre. A couple did outstandingly great work. A sheet metal worker did extra work he refused to charge for (additional work on a fixed-price job).
 
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Complain about the job! The casing should be replaced with an elongated one. Alternatively, a hose should be fitted on all pipes.
 
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SoderD SoderD said:
I got a new central installed yesterday and wonder if this installation is okay? I guess I can put some cabinet or something over it but want to first ensure that this is correct.

I'm a bit surprised by the placement but don't know if it's safe or not regarding electrical safety.
It's a bit unfortunate that he didn't splice in some conduit on the visible wires, that would have been quite sufficient, I think. Behind the casing, it looks completely okay, although a bit messy maybe. But that's not the end of the world.
 
Now this discussion has turned into one about craftsmen in general. Shame. This is about someone who is not a qualified electrician. Nowadays the epithet is "authorized." Not only poorly executed, but also with risks to people. This guy should never install anything related to electricity again. Report the company he works for. If it was a close friend who thought he could... well, it's hard to say no then. But get a qualified electrician to redo everything. EVERYTHING.
 
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Surge protection should also be placed at the incoming line for best effect. A central with an additional row above would have made it possible to place the distribution clamps there and also splice short conductors on terminal blocks in a structured way. This would have allowed the surge protection to be placed at the main switch and the freed-up space would have allowed for a more structured placement of the devices.
 
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J jonaserik said:
Good, and now let's hope your instructions will be useful for all the electricians on the forum performing such work, so there is no doubt about what is right and wrong according to you. Now, it might not be that easy in reality to do as you write. Sometimes shortcuts are taken which are also approved according to the rulebook, which you of course follow 100% of the time. And it's up to each executor to make that decision on site.
I shouldn't interfere, but it looks awful. With not much more trouble (like 10 min extra time), the "electrician" could have slipped on a sleeve and a piece of conduit on the feeds where the FK is hanging freely.
As far as I know, there is no larger duct approved for loose FK that can cover the mistake.
If I had an employee who did this, they would have had to go back and fix it at the company's expense.
Sometimes you can tweak the regulations a little, but not in this case.
 
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P Putte 9497 said:
Why have you placed HB at the bottom? It doesn't look right
No, why so?
And sometimes there are really good reasons.
 
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H HenrikHuslöse said:
Surge protection should also be placed at the incoming line for the best effect. A panel with an additional row above would have made it possible to place the distribution terminals there and also splice short conductors on row terminals in a structured way. Then the surge protection could have been placed at the main switch, and the freed-up space would have allowed for a more structured placement of the devices.
After about 50 posts, we're back in the thread after some discussion of alarms and other things. Wonderful.

What kind of alarm was it really in tonight's old Beck movie?
 
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Do you have a picture before work with and without front?
 
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