Hello!
(This will be a long post because I don't know how to explain, and plus there are two questions in the same post... sorry in advance)
Now we have started tearing down the kitchen. Between the cabinets and the sink, we had tiles on top of drywall. To align with the level, those who tiled, etc., plastered very thick behind the wood stove. We have started to remove that because we don't want it that thick since it created a grease and dust collecting edge of about 2.5 cm above the tiles, and instead, we want to use renovation gypsum. Possibly also remove the plywood that was behind the drywall to make it even less built out (there is a plank wall behind).
When we then started removing the tiles above the wood stove that consequently have mortar (or plaster? Which word is right?) behind, it has of course come off very unevenly. The question is how we proceed...
Do we remove all the old mortar down/in to the bricks, place renovation gypsum up to the chimney breast (= half the electric stove), plaster up to level with the gypsum and tile? Or can you use filler instead of mortar? If we remove the plywood board, can we then, instead of mortar, place R.G. all the way to the corner directly on the brick?
If we drywall all the way up to the ceiling - how do we deal with the damper that belongs to the wood stove? It is painted over multiple times (but should probably be able to be "sanded out") but does anyone know if you can unscrew the outer piece that we have circled in the photo and place it on top of the gypsum?
In short - how do I fix this wall in the nicest and simplest way? We plan to have a painted wall above the tiles; not fully tiled.
Knock down as evenly as possible and apply plaster/renovation plaster to the ceiling and preferably the entire width of the wall. It should definitely be possible to reveal the stove trim properly. Use an old screwdriver and knife to properly expose the slots of the screws.
Can you really cover a chimney breast with regular gypsum board? I would probably plaster it myself - or at least check with the chimney sweep. It's not fun if at the next inspection they say you have to tear off the gypsum...
And, make sure to use the "right" plaster, old house likely has lime plaster. Gypsum plaster is easier to apply if you're inexperienced (you probably can't fail), but I think it's somewhat less suitable where moisture exists and on a chimney, but it might work... Don't use a "harder" plaster on top of lime plaster, it won't work...
Knock down as evenly as possible and install gypsum/renovation gypsum to the ceiling and preferably the entire width of the wall. It should definitely be possible to expose the stove sheet properly. Use an old screwdriver and knife to expose the screw threads properly.
Yes, that's what we're considering, if only to get a straight wall for the kitchen cabinets. But ARE you allowed to remove the sheet metal (thanks for the word!) and move it out to be over the gypsum, or can this affect its function? I should ask the chimney sweeper coming on Monday, but if it's a young beginner, maybe he/she might not know...
Can you really clad a chimney in mortar with regular drywall? I would probably have plastered it myself - or at least consulted the chimney sweep. Not fun if during the next inspection they say you have to remove the drywall...
Will check with the chimney sweep, but I'm more concerned about the damper etc. Isn't drywall fireproof?
Yes, that's what we are considering, if nothing else, to get a straight wall for the kitchen cabinets. But CAN you take off the flashing (thanks for the word! ) and move it outwards to outside the gypsum or could it affect the function? I will ask the chimney sweep who is coming on Monday, but if they are a young beginner, they might not know...
It won't impact the function, so it's not a problem.
Edit: whether it's called flashing or something else, I'll leave unsaid, I thought flashing fit
And, make sure you use the "right" render, an old house probably has lime render. Gypsum render is easier to apply if you're inexperienced (you probably can't go wrong) but I think it's somewhat worse where moisture is present and on a chimney stack, but it might work... Don't use a "harder" render on top of lime render, it won't work...
How do I check that then? And what's the difference between "mortar" and "render" in this case? I've always thought that mortar is what you have between the stones to bond them, and render is what you put on top to cover everything (if you've used concrete blocks, for example) but I've also assumed that mortar is much harder/stronger. The stuff that was behind the tiles needs to be removed with a demolition hammer; it's extremely hard. But that mortar is "only" 19 years old because I renovated the kitchen then. However, I didn't do the tiling myself, so I have no idea what was used.
It will not affect the function so it's not a problem.
Edit: whether it's called a clip or something else I won't commit to, I thought clip suited
Oh that's great! Because we have been thinking a lot about what we do to make everything even, as the new cabinets don't have the same dimensions as the old ones.
I also think "bleck" fits
Then maybe I can throw in another question (maybe another chimney sweep question...) We are about to install a fan in the kitchen, to the chimney's ventilation duct (visible as a black hole above the damper). Should the connection pipe go up/into the duct and if so, how far, or just up to the wall and be attached? There hasn't been a fan before because the chimney sweep previously said it could cause incorrect draft in the living room fireplace if I had a fan in the kitchen. Since then, however, we have both built up the chimney a few courses, and installed a fireplace insert, and the last few times I've asked the chimney sweep about a fan, he's said it should work. However, I haven't asked about details since it wasn't relevant then.
I get so frustrated when I don't know because I don't even know who/which professional category to call and ask or hire! Ventilation professionals? Or a mason? Or a carpenter or...etc.? Therefore, extremely grateful for your answers!
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