Mounting wall cabinets?

[Nygge72]

Hello, I have a summer cottage from the 60s and need to put up 2 Ikea wall kitchen cabinets (80x80cm). The walls feel like thin masonite or something similar.

So the question is how do I attach the rail to hang these on. I imagine that there are smart plugs today that become strong enough even in thin walls, but I don't know what they might be, or should I do it in another way?

Thanks in advance

 

[BirgitS]

Even if there is masonite or similar on the outermost part of the walls, there must be studs or similar behind that the masonite is attached to, and it is probably these studs you need to find and use to put up the rail for the kitchen cabinets.

 

[lassebrun]

Test with a magnet to see if you can find the nails in the studs.

 

[tergo]

it may be that there is råspont behind the masonite if you're lucky

 

[MathiasS]

Use the rails IKEA has for the cabinets and use 6-8mm wood screws of appropriate length. Plugs have no place in a wooden wall.

 

[Nygge72]

it might be that there is råspont behind the masonite if you're lucky

Unfortunately, there isn't. Just empty space.

 

[Nygge72]

Even if it's masonite or something similar on the outer part of the walls, there must be studs or something similar behind that the masonite is attached to, and these are probably the studs you need to find and use to set up the rail for the kitchen cabinets.

I will of course look for that, but was mainly thinking where there isn't any.

 

[Nygge72]

Test with a magnet to see if you can find the nails in the studs.

That was smart. Thanks for the tip

 

[Nygge72]

Use the tracks that Ikea has for the cabinets and use 6-8mm wood screws of appropriate length. Plugs have no place in a wooden wall.

I'm going to use the tracks and check if I've found studs so I have something to attach to, but it's where there are no studs that I'm wondering what can be used.

 

[BirgitS]

Normal studs can indeed bear a lot of weight, but masonite can handle very little.
Aren't there any wall-mounted cabinets there today?

 

[Nygge72]

Normal studs can carry a lot of weight but masonite can withstand very little.
Aren't there any wall-mounted cabinets there today?

Nope

 

[MathiasS]

I will be using the rails and checking if I've found studs so I have something to attach to, but it's where there are no studs that I'm wondering what can be used

but a wall is never just made of masonite. If there are no studs, it's vertical planks if it's a wooden wall. At 160cm, there are at least 2 studs to screw into, and I don't think you have a wall with just studs and masonite - that's never been built. Do you mean there's nothing behind the masonite? The usual would be to have tongue and groove planks or particle board behind the masonite, and then you can screw anywhere.

Start by figuring out exactly what the wall looks like. Drill with a 5-6mm drill and use an L-shaped wire to understand how thick the wall is and what it's made of.

 

[Nygge72]

but a wall never consists of just masonite. If there are no studs, it's vertical planks, if it's a wooden wall. At 160cm, there are at least 2 studs to screw into, and I don't think you have a wall with just studs and masonite - it's never been built that way. Do you mean there's nothing behind the masonite? The typical construction would be to have raw boards or chipboard behind the masonite, and then you can screw anywhere.

Start by figuring out exactly how the wall is constructed. Drill with a 5-6mm drill bit and use an L-shaped wire to understand how thick the wall is and what it's made of.

of course, it's not just masonite. However, the cabinet is positioned between 2 windows (probably studs there), but it's too far between the windows to cover these 800. But probably, I'll get 2 out of 3 studs between these windows (I imagine it's cc500 approximately in this cabin or a little less). So there will still be some hole without a stud, and I want it to be as secure as possible.

 

[MathiasS]

...but whether you have studs or not doesn't matter if you have chipboard or råspont behind the hardboard. Of course, you use slightly longer screws in the studs if you have them, but otherwise, you just put a couple of screws between the studs as well, and the cabinets will sit there permanently.