Mounting for chandelier in wooden ceiling?

[Craftboy]

Hello,

I'm going to install a chandelier in a wooden house. The chandelier is old and relatively heavy, about 10 kg. In our previous home (an apartment in a concrete building), I used an expansion bolt for concrete, and the chandelier was very secure. Can I use the same expansion bolt now (despite the wooden ceiling), or is there something else I should use? The one I used before looks like this:

https://www.hilti.se/medias/sys_master/images/hc3/9088618561566/5799_APC_830x515.jpg

 

[Demmpa]

What is the ceiling made of?
Is there a ceiling box where you want the chandelier?
Ceiling boxes can usually handle a hanging weight of 15kg.
What is above the ceiling (upper floor, attic, ...)?

 

[falkn]

What do you mean by wooden ceiling? Is it paneling on the ceiling? If you have the possibility to screw into a ceiling beam or a sparse to the panel, this is the best and guaranteed to hold.

 

[Craftboy]

There is an upstairs above the ceiling... The ceiling consists of some kind of panel, I found a picture online that looks exactly like our ceiling: http://baatplassen.no/bildearkiv/2/2592/110112_ferdig_tak.jpg

Is there any easy way to find out where the beams are located? And what is a "gles"?

As you can see, I'm not very experienced, so please explain as you would to a five-year-old...

 

[Troberg]

The easiest way to find the beams is with a magnet, to find the nails. Once you know where they are, the beams are easy to identify.

If you have solid wood to screw into, 10 kg is a breeze; you can manage that with any slightly larger hook.

I've hung things on hooks like these, and I can hang my entire weight on one of them.

http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Beslag/Krok/Skruvoglor-2000020110/

 

[Bob_the_builder]

Your ceiling is attached to a so-called sparse panel (boards, usually 28x70 mm) with 30 or 40 cm spacing. If you knock on the ceiling or search with a magnet, you will find a sparse panel board with a suitable placement (even if you might have to move 1-2 dm from your optimal location). There, you screw in a ceiling hook with a thread for wood, like the one suggested by Troberg or http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Beslag/Krok/Skruvkrokar-5-st--takkrok-vaggkrok-mm-2000017252/

 

[Craftboy]

Okay. Tried knocking on the ceiling but can't hear any studs. I'll try the magnet, but don't I need quite a strong magnet? Are there specific ones for this purpose?

 

[Troberg]

The stronger the magnet, the easier it is, but it should work with any.

 

[Craftboy]

I bought a stud finder at Jula. There was a gap between the new inner ceiling and the old one, so it wasn't very easy to find the stud, but after a test drill, I located a stud. I hung a 15-kilo dumbbell on the hook for two days and it held, so hopefully, the chandelier will stay up too.