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Mirror glass with protective film ok in sliding door?
I am renovating the hallway and about to buy two SKYTTA doors for a wardrobe solution. The doors can be cut to height, but then you can no longer use IKEA's mirrored glass panels since they are tempered and cannot be cut afterward.
So to the question; I contacted the local glazier and they said that tempered glass is expensive and has to be custom-ordered, so they usually use regular mirror glass with a protective film on the back.
The National Board of Housing, Building and Planning says:
So to the question; I contacted the local glazier and they said that tempered glass is expensive and has to be custom-ordered, so they usually use regular mirror glass with a protective film on the back.
The National Board of Housing, Building and Planning says:
Would you say it's okay to have regular mirror glass with protective film in a hallway?Thermally tempered safety glass according to SS-EN 12150-2, which meets at least class 1(C)3 or laminated safety glass according to SS-EN 14449 which meets at least class 2(B)2 according to SS-EN 12600 should be used in
- glass surfaces in entrances and communication spaces if the distance from the bottom edge of the glass surface to the floor or ground is less than 1.5 meters,
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Yes, that's okay. But even Ikea's mirror glass is usually not tempered. There's another thread about someone who cut one of Ikea's sliding doors and mentioned that those mirrors were not tempered. If you have or buy the doors, you can take the mirror glass to the glazier, and they can tell you if they are tempered or not.
Just had a long conversation with IKEA support where they insist that Auli is tempered. Tried to make them understand that it's not possible given that more than one person managed to cut them. But no, that penny didn't drop.
18.11.2024 10:21): System: Hang on, we'll help you over to IKEA live chat.
(18.11.2024 10:21): System: Right now, many people are contacting us, but we'll respond as soon as we can.
(18.11.2024 10:26): Alexandra: Hi! My name is Alexandra. How can I help you?
(18.11.2024 10:27): samuel: Hi, in some places you write that it's not possible to cut auli mirror glass because it's tempered. But when you read online, it doesn't seem to be tempered and that it should actually be possible. What's the deal?
(18.11.2024 10:28): samuel:
(18.11.2024 10:31): samuel: When you look at Svartisdal it says:
(18.11.2024 10:31): samuel: "About the material Tempered glass, Ceramic color
(18.11.2024 10:32): samuel: but for auli it only says "About the material Glass, Plastic foil"
(18.11.2024 10:32): samuel: does that mean it's actually possible to cut the mirror glass then even though the store staff says otherwise?
(18.11.2024 10:33): Alexandra: What a good question! No, it's absolutely not something we recommend.
(18.11.2024 10:34): samuel: but is the glass tempered or not?
(18.11.2024 10:38): Alexandra: I'll double-check that, please hold on for a moment.
(18.11.2024 10:39): samuel: thanks. Because it seems like only the transparent glasses are tempered. Not the mirror glass.
(18.11.2024 10:44): Alexandra: Thank you for waiting! It's a bit unclear, I understand, but it is tempered glass.
(18.11.2024 10:45): samuel: so those I showed from building houses, how have they managed? You can't cut tempered glass and yet at least two in that thread have managed to do it.
(18.11.2024 10:46): Alexandra: I can't see the picture you've sent but the glass is tempered and it can't be cut.
(18.11.2024 10:46): samuel:
(18.11.2024 10:47): samuel: [link]
(18.11.2024 10:48): samuel: but why does it say "Glass, Plastic foil" on Auli and "Tempered glass" on Svartisdal? If it's tempered, it should say so on both, right?
(18.11.2024 10:49): samuel: can you connect me to some kind of product expert on this?
(18.11.2024 10:49): Alexandra: We don't have any form of product expert, I'm speaking with our specialists right now hold on a moment while I investigate!
(18.11.2024 10:57): Alexandra: Thank you for waiting! Yes, it is tempered glass but we do not recommend cutting the glass; then you have to make your own solution as this person has done since it’s entirely their own solution so if something happens, no warranty covers that.
(18.11.2024 10:58): Alexandra: Nothing in this linked text indicates that it is sustainable in the long run to cut since damages can cause consequences.
(18.11.2024 11:00): samuel: but either the glass is tempered or it is not tempered. If it is tempered you can't cut it as those two have managed. But okay, I get that you can't provide more info but unfortunately, it was a non-answer.
(18.11.2024 11:02): Alexandra: I'm stating clearly that it is tempered and if people have managed to make their own solutions for this it's something that stands for them it's nothing we can support, they have in that case contacted a specialized store or similar. We therefore do not recommend cutting, if you do this and something goes wrong, no warranty will cover it.
You're likely never going to get Ikea to approve modifications to their products. They would probably then be liable to take responsibility for it.
However, they should be able to find out what type of glass it is. It's not impossible that they have switched to tempered mirror glass, but I see it as unlikely.
However, they should be able to find out what type of glass it is. It's not impossible that they have switched to tempered mirror glass, but I see it as unlikely.
What I wanted to get from Ikea is:
- The Mehamn panel is made of MDF and can be cut to fit a lower door.
- The Svartisdal and Björnöya panels are made of tempered glass and cannot be cut/trimmed.
- The Auli panel is made of glass with a protective film and can be cut, but you do so at your own risk. No warranty applies if the glass breaks incorrectly, etc.
Note: Almost every gym facility has mirror glass with safety film on the back, it is rarely tempered for the above-mentioned reason among others, and a film works just as well. The principle becomes almost like laminated glass but without double (or multiple) glass panes.
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