It will make an incredible mess to cut grooves :( and it will become static and so tiresome to clean up... Why not just lay the heating on top? There are plastic clips with barbs designed to attach hose/cable to regular EPS (styrofoam) which work excellently in EPS cement.
 
I save quite a bit of flytspackel by milling/sawing down the hose.
If I need my 20mm spackel over the hose, it will be a few hundred kilos less...
since it will be 34kg/sqm x 40-70 sqm

well, we'll see how it goes...
 
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nino said:
I save quite a bit of self-leveling compound by milling/sawing down the hose. If I should have my 20mm compound over the hose, it will be a few hundred kg less... Since it becomes 34kg/sqm x 40-70 sqm

Yeah, we'll see how it goes...
And you also get a more quickly regulated heating system, which in my opinion is better.
 
nino said:
I'm saving quite a bit of self-leveling compound by milling/sawing down the pipe. If I have my 20mm compound over the pipe, it will be a few hundred kilos less... considering it's 34kg/sqm x 40-70 sqm

Yes, we'll see how it turns out...
I'm doubtful that it will work well to lay down the pipe in the EPS-concrete. If I recall correctly, EPS-concrete has about half the thermal insulation capability as styrofoam. This means that EPS-concrete is a rather poor heat distributor.

I found the following on Uponor's website:

Installation of embedded floor heating

When choosing to embed the pipes, it is most common to embed the Uponor Floor Heating System 20 because it is usually cheaper. If you are limited by the installation height, you can choose Uponor Floor Heating System 12, which only needs to be covered with 15 mm including any tiles.

If you choose a 12mm pipe, you need to cover it with 5mm of self-leveling compound if you're going to lay tiles.
 
nino said:
I save quite a bit of flytspackel by milling/sawing down the hose. If I have my 20mm spackel over the hose, it will be a few hundred kilos less... as it becomes 34kg/sqm x 40-70 sqm

Yes, we'll see how it turns out...
Mm, that's true, it just seems so tedious and "messy" for you :(
Can't one figure out a way to create the grooves directly during the eps casting..? Like not casting everything at once so that you can move with a "grid" of battens or something with the right dimensions :S?
 
RC: I've thought about it but haven't come up with a good way...
The question is, does it dust that much? It's not much cement... the beads probably don't dust that much

magnu: seeing as it's quite a large area, I think 12mm pipes are too narrow,
Yes according to Uponor, yes... 5mm is enough but I don't think any filler manufacturer would agree because the hose moves quite a bit.
I'm not going to cast the hose into EPS, instead, it will essentially lie in self-leveling compound, since the groove will be 5-10mm larger than the hose and will be kept in place with the ROT mesh.
I'll call EPScement and see if they have come up with any constructions
 
No, it might be difficult to prepare the tracks... but it's not the cement's contribution to dust/debris that I'm worried about, it's the eps... it becomes static and sticks and flies everywhere, it's like sawing in Styrofoam.
But go ahead and good luck, it will be great when it's done and then you'll have forgotten the hassle :)
 
I laid out EPS with a ladle and sword. There should be no problem laying out battens for the tracks. I used plastic cable clips to secure the hose, but I had to use 5x50mm screws to secure the clips in the EPS.
 
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