Hello!
(I don't know if I placed this question in the correct part of the forum, please let me know if that's the case)
I am going to build gates that provide some privacy. They will be quite tall, from the ground to the top of the gate doors, it will be 190cm ("the arch" will of course be even higher).
There will be a double gate and a single gate.
They will have a type of arch above and around them, where we will use reinforcement mesh as a trellis, and plant climbing plants to make it look nice.
The foundation is buried concrete supports, and there is paving under the gates.
The posts and arch will be built with 70x70 posts.
For the gates, I planned for the frame and diagonal braces to be 45x95 timber.
The boards/timber that form the actual privacy screen on the gates will be 28x45 timber.
As you can see, I plan to have three hinges on each side.
I have attached the drawing for the double gate, the single gate will be similar but only about 100cm wide.
My questions are:
Have I sized the gates correctly?
Are 45x95 timbers sufficient for the frame?
Have I thought correctly about the diagonal braces?
Is there anything else that I've missed?
(I don't know if I placed this question in the correct part of the forum, please let me know if that's the case)
I am going to build gates that provide some privacy. They will be quite tall, from the ground to the top of the gate doors, it will be 190cm ("the arch" will of course be even higher).
There will be a double gate and a single gate.
They will have a type of arch above and around them, where we will use reinforcement mesh as a trellis, and plant climbing plants to make it look nice.
The foundation is buried concrete supports, and there is paving under the gates.
The posts and arch will be built with 70x70 posts.
For the gates, I planned for the frame and diagonal braces to be 45x95 timber.
The boards/timber that form the actual privacy screen on the gates will be 28x45 timber.
As you can see, I plan to have three hinges on each side.
I have attached the drawing for the double gate, the single gate will be similar but only about 100cm wide.
My questions are:
Have I sized the gates correctly?
Are 45x95 timbers sufficient for the frame?
Have I thought correctly about the diagonal braces?
Is there anything else that I've missed?
The dimension 45x95 is quite rough. When it only needs to support itself, you choose the dimension based on what looks nice. It should hold even with a slimmer dimension.
The upper braces direct compressive force into the center hinge. That's good. The lower braces handle tensile force from the middle and downwards. As long as you have at least one brace that handles compression, it will hold, even tensile force if you carefully consider the mounting. So there too, choose what looks nice. The easiest might be a brace that goes from the lower hinges to the upper corner. But as you draw or an x works as well if you like that look. It's good if there are at least hinges where the braces press or pull on the gate, which you've solved in the middle.
The upper braces direct compressive force into the center hinge. That's good. The lower braces handle tensile force from the middle and downwards. As long as you have at least one brace that handles compression, it will hold, even tensile force if you carefully consider the mounting. So there too, choose what looks nice. The easiest might be a brace that goes from the lower hinges to the upper corner. But as you draw or an x works as well if you like that look. It's good if there are at least hinges where the braces press or pull on the gate, which you've solved in the middle.
So, would it work just as well to use 45x70 studs for the gates themselves? Or would even "thinner" ones, like 28x70 studs, work?
I'm not sure I completely understand what you mean by the diagonal braces. But do you think it would work with just one from the lower hinge up to the right corner (if we take the left door as an example)? And in that case, have only two hinges per door? Because I assume you would remove the middle horizontal stud then?
I'm not sure I completely understand what you mean by the diagonal braces. But do you think it would work with just one from the lower hinge up to the right corner (if we take the left door as an example)? And in that case, have only two hinges per door? Because I assume you would remove the middle horizontal stud then?
The posts seem weak for such a large and heavy gate.
I would rather cast my own piers with proper pier irons or even cast thick pressure-treated posts into the ground.
The diagonal brace should preferably go from the upper corner farthest from the post to the lower edge on the hinge side of the gate.
I would rather cast my own piers with proper pier irons or even cast thick pressure-treated posts into the ground.
The diagonal brace should preferably go from the upper corner farthest from the post to the lower edge on the hinge side of the gate.
45*70 is sufficient.Geeklas said:
If you want to use glespanel 28*70 for a door or gate, I think you also need to glue-screw a panel material onto the "door leaf"; the advantage of that is that you can exclude the diagonal brace.
The pillars are unfortunately already buried and around the gates, it's paved. I thought I was smart and finished that before I started sketching how the gates and "arch" would look 🙈F fribygg said:
I don't know if it helps, but the actual "arch" that the gate is attached to will be 4 posts, even though the gate itself is only attached to two. The four posts will be connected. I don't know if I illustrated it well, but on the right side of the first image, the "arch" is shown from the side to show that they are connected. Maybe that makes it a bit more stable?
I think it can actually look pretty nice with slightly thicker doors, so for me, it's fine to use 45x70 beams instead of 28x70 beams if it makes it more stable.