...and for those who have old kärnvirkesfönster with 100 years on their back, this is another reason to consider whether you can renovate your old windows instead of buying new non-renovatable "disposable windows" in a plastic and aluminum mix that in 20-30 years will look like crap... Comfort and ease of cleaning are, of course, better with new windows, but economically, you can never justify new windows if you have a reasonably efficient heating system...
I think you should talk to your dealer first, especially because they were unpacked and the original packaging had been broken.
The question in my world is: where were the windows purchased from? How were they transported (by whom) - to your home?
Did you buy them from a dealer - or were they delivered directly to you?
This is the main reason why I prefer wooden windows made of pine with as much heartwood as possible.........
"Maintenance-free" practically means "cannot be maintained". I wonder what modern maintenance-free windows will look like in 20 years....and in 50 years....... and what happens when times are tough for a family and they can't afford to replace their worn-out single-use windows. Such things often happen when there are crises and there isn't enough work to go around. That is, the normal situation in today's world.
The question in my world is: where were the windows purchased from? How were they transported (by whom) - to your home?
Did you buy them from a retailer - or were they delivered directly to your home.
They are, as I understand it, transported to the building supplier on a pallet, but we've heard that it's not entirely uncommon for them to already have damages at that point.
I took them in my Volvo V70 and handled them very carefully, so there are unlikely to be any scratches or marks from my handling.
This is the main reason why I prefer wooden windows made of pine with as much heartwood as possible.........
"Maintenance-free" means in practice "cannot be maintained." I wonder what modern maintenance-free windows will look like in 20 years... and in 50 years... and what happens when times get tough for a family and they can't afford to replace their worn-out disposable windows. Such things happen quite often during crises when there isn't enough work to go around. That is the normal situation in today's world.
I think you're exaggerating a bit now. It's mostly a cosmetic problem, even if they're scuffed they probably won't function worse. Sure, they can corrode but that would take a lot. Also, these are only clad wooden windows so from what I understand you should be able to remove the cladding if necessary.
I completely understand what you mean, wooden windows can always be repaired one way or another, fully aluminum windows are definitely harder if not impossible. But on the other hand, if they're made right, they shouldn't need repairing.
Now, it is good to buy Swedish windows from a Swedish dealer. Because when you contact your dealer, it will be resolved as SP cares about its reputation. They will replace it, that is my experience, and SP should be praised for that. In this way, we continue to buy, among other things, Swedish SP windows...
Congratulations, do you work for SP or a reseller?
As I understand, they are transported to the building merchants on a pallet but as we've been told, it's not uncommon for them to have damage already then. I transported them in my Volvo V70 and handled them very carefully so there are unlikely to be any scratches or marks from my handling.
Be prepared that you may have difficulty proving that the damage was there when you picked them out =/ Even though it's the most natural thing to be incredibly careful with something as valuable as new windows - especially when you have paid for them yourself! The transport companies, on the other hand... What is a bit strange is that the protective plastic wasn't on the dark windows - and since they come from a building supply store - one might suspect that they've already been on a trip to a buyer and then back. Alternatively, the seller might have noticed the blemishes and hoped to sell them anyway. You should first contact the retailer. You lose nothing by trying.
I think you're exaggerating a bit now. Really, it's mostly a cosmetic issue, even if they're scuffed, they probably won't work worse. Sure, they can get corroded, but that would take a lot. Furthermore, these are only clad wooden windows, so from what I understand, you should be able to remove the cladding if necessary.
I understand what you mean, of course, wooden windows can always be repaired in one way or another, solid aluminum windows are definitely more difficult if not impossible. But on the other hand, if they're made right, they shouldn't need repairs.
I was thinking more generally about a construction where damages can't be repaired on-site. The small scratches are practically insignificant.
An example:
First a few years of work on low wages alternating with unemployment... and then you become sick and receive minimal sick leave benefits for a couple of years... and then unemployed... and in that situation, you are forced to start a small industry company with only your own capital (which doesn't exist) because it's impossible to get a job.
In such a situation, repairable stuff quite simply means the difference between floating or sinking.
If you have all the time in the world, you should buy wooden windows, maybe if you're retired. But if you're around 30 years old, buying your first house, have two small children, and maybe a third on the way, then PVC windows are recommended. They easily last 40-50 years, and by then you might be moving into a retirement home anyway. If you consider the cost of labor, paint, putty, etc. for a wooden window, I find it hard to see them being cheaper than maintenance-free windows. The only thing I do once or twice a year is rinse my 14 windows with a garden hose and a sponge. No solvents or anything else. Just water.
...time will tell... which is the best choice... I'm changing windows now that are maybe 30 years old while those that are 100 years old are in prime condition despite lacking maintenance... but maybe the ones changed 30 years ago were more exposed and in bad shape (even though I think it was more about other factors, like fashion and political grants, that dictated the choice). I would rather paint every 15 years and keep the heartwood until death than gut the frames and ruin the wallpaper and facade when I'm using a walker but haven't ended up in a home yet... But on the other hand, many trims after window replacement are nailed with white nails on pre-painted trims without mitered corners so nothing is ruined, in my case, it's nailed, filled, and painted on-site, and replacing frames is quite a bit of work...
We chose new wooden windows for their appearance, however, it seems it won't be easy when these need to be renovated.
To repaint the exterior wood, you'll probably need to snap off the glazing beads to get proper access. The glazing beads are press-fitted on plastic clips and are attached very firmly. The clips/beads will most likely break when trying to dismantle them in 15-20 years, unfortunately...
Despite the family cabin being from around 1875, I chose PVC windows due to the ownership structure and a 43-mile one-way trip to and from the cabin. Aesthetically, I am very pleased with Rehau Nordic Plus! They also block out noise very well, not that it's so important there, but in the city, I can imagine they are beneficial
To achieve similar durability as old windows, they should probably be painted with linseed oil and be double-glazed with regular putty. Possibly with energy glass, but not 2+1 glass, as you might end up needing to replace large parts during the first renovation. I'm not sure about the expected lifespan of the glass units, but to expect them to work without being foggy, isolating well, etc., after 40 years is probably unrealistic, so a 30-year lifespan might be expected. Can you replace the glass in a plastic window? Or do you throw the whole thing away if there's a break-in or if the neighbor's kids throw a frisbee into it? Or when the unit starts leaking? But now we may have strayed too far from the thread...
I guess the original poster needs to buy some sealant and a spray can at Biltema or return the windows to SP, or what do you paint aluminum with?
Interesting how the thread could drift away to pvc or wood windows...
The big question is probably how much you are bothered by the flaws that exist. But I would probably try to contact the supplier. And maybe come up with a solution that suits everyone!
But on the other hand, many trims after window replacement are nailed with white nails on pre-painted trims without mitered corners so nothing is ruined, in my case, it's nailed, filled, and painted on-site, and replacing frames is quite a bit of work...
