Yes, in the worst case, it can be done from the outside, but I avoid it as long as possible.

Thank you so much for the pictures! It looks very nice, good to see how it looks.

Yes, I have read that thread, but according to replies in this thread, you can't do that because it undermines the bjälklaget?
 
R rqx said:
Yes, in the worst case, it can be done from the outside, but I avoid it as much as possible.

Thank you very much for the pictures! Looks very nice, good to see how it looks.

Yes, I have read that thread but according to replies in this thread, you cannot do that as it would undermine the joist?
After reading the thread, I spoke with a hole maker I've been collaborating with for a while and mentioned your concern, he said, "openings in erge-joists we have been doing for 30 years
R rqx said:
Yes, in the worst case, it can be done from the outside, but I avoid it as much as possible.

Thank you very much for the pictures! Looks very nice, good to see how it looks.

Yes, I have read that thread but according to replies in this thread, you cannot do that as it would undermine the joist?
Since I have the original drawings, I thought it might be useful reading!
It states what type of reinforcement you need for the opening if you do it from the inside.
Blueprint showing original structural design with notes on beam reinforcement and floor slab cutouts for construction in erge framework. Instruction manual page detailing installation guidelines for Erge floor structure with diagrams and text on storage, assembly, and grouting. Blueprint of floor slab cutouts with detailed section views for construction, showing supports and reinforcements, from Östra Grevie Cementgjuteri AB.
 
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Please explain why I will pierce a beam if I go down through the garage slab, but if I go from the outside, it's no longer a problem?
I assume the garage slab is reinforced with a vot, maybe 30 cm high. Then you also need to go through the torpargrundsväggen (anyway). If you make a hole somewhere else in the wall facing the garden, it's "only" the wall you need to pierce. Measures must be taken to divert surface water away from the wall.
 
With access to the original drawings, there are conditions to perform a controlled hole drilling. However, the work to suspend the remaining slab parts is not entirely uncomplicated. Even with these conditions, there remains a risk that the hole drilling is unsuitably positioned in relation to the floor plan. Working to transport material out from the crawl space through a hole in the joist is hardly ideal.
 
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Thank you for the pictures, useful information

Thank you, I understand!

Let's hope I'll get the original drawings when we gain access to the house, so we can make a proper assessment. We have photographed it, and it seems to be a good environment, but maybe we want a moisture meter and install ventilation/dehumidifier. Maybe a plastic mat as well.
 
Stupid question maybe, but the thread seems appropriate. Is there usually reinforcement in both the lower and upper concrete layer of an erge-bjälklag?
 
As I understand it, the lower layer is the ergebjälklaget, then in my case comes styrofoam, and then a slab is cast. I have not discovered that it would be reinforced (yet).
 
R rqx said:
As I understand it, the lower layer is the ergebjälklaget, then in my case comes styrofoam, then a slab is cast. I haven't discovered that it would be reinforced (yet)
Sounds good. Can one assume that the cast slab above doesn't have any load-bearing function? Or does it usually distribute loads to the edges?
 
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