But if you add an extra joint instead of extending the steps, it will not only be slightly less compact, it will hardly be collapsible at all.
 
D Daniel 109 said:
But if you add an extra joint instead of extending the steps, it won't just be packed a little worse, it will barely be foldable at all.
Attic ladder design with red pivot angle and blue hinge stop, showing a customized setup to avoid obstruction from a shelf, ready for hinges.
This is how I want to do it. To be able to maneuver past a shelf that the blue end would otherwise hit. The red joint will not be used in the folded position. It is measured and clear, it works as I intended, I just need the hinges.
 
Okay, then I'm with you. It should work well.
 
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