Help with wood/decking for patio construction?

[Torkil]

Hi!

I am planning to order materials for a large (100 sqm) deck construction that a carpenter is helping me with. Is there anyone who can give me some brief and unbiased feedback on whether you think there is any significant difference between the two options below? (There is quite a price difference, after all)

Beijer: https://www.beijerbygg.se/store/pri...erad-klass-ab-1384241719709-46?artikel=416061

Byggmax: https://www.byggmax.se/virke/trall/34x145-trall-impregnerad-grön-p08734145

Thanks in advance!

/Fredrik

 

[GoForIt]

Normally, Beijer Bygg delivers a product of higher quality than Byggmax.

Is there any reason why you choose to go for such thick decking?

 

[Torkil]

I think it's nicer and feels more stable, but I was mostly wondering about those two options. I don't see any direct difference between the two, but is it generally felt that Beijer "should" be better than Byggmax?

 

[holmberg87]

I don't think you can generally say that Beijer should be better than Byggmax. I have sometimes thought that, but oh, how many times I have been wrong. Many times, Byggmax has also had better timber than Beijer in terms of cracks, bent pieces, etc. I built my deck with Byggmax decking and they had wood from far up in Norrland which was surprisingly tight-grained and nice.

It probably varies depending on the store and materials, of course, but you shouldn't assume that Byggmax is worse.

 

[GoForIt]

Of course, it may vary from case to case, but generally, Beijer Bygg has somewhat higher requirements for wood quality than ByggMax.

If you want to aim higher in terms of quality, you should look for decking made from Norrland raw materials.
But you won't usually find that at either Beijer or Byggmax in the southern part of the country.

 

[Torkil]

Okay, thanks for the input but can you help me decide then? If it's not possible to read about the differences on the respective page, does that mean the only option left is to go to the factory and look/feel the planks??

 

[holmberg87]

It can of course vary from case to case, but generally, Beijer Bygg has slightly higher requirements for timber quality than ByggMax.

If you want to aim higher in terms of quality, you should look for decking that is made from northern Swedish raw materials.
But you usually won't find that at either Beijer or Byggmax in the southern part of the country.

True, but Byggmax luckily had it in the local store this summer.

 

[GoForIt]

What does the carpenter say?

If you order now, so early in the season, you risk getting last year's wood that has stood over the winter.

 

[GoForIt]

True, but Byggmax luckily had it in the local store this summer

Well, Gävleborg is slightly further north than Skåne/Jönköping..

 

[HasseTeknik]

Perhaps this affects the price?
"All our pressure-treated decking timber is NTR-classified and comes with a 20-year consumer guarantee"

 

[AndersS]

At Byggmax, it's the list price that applies, at Beijer there is an opportunity to negotiate for private individuals based on how much you order. And delivery of timber can come from the same sawmill, not uncommon. Here in the southeastern part of the country, it's not uncommon for the timber to say Södra and for treated wood to say Bergs Timber (Bitus).

 

[GoForIt]

Maybe this affects the price?
"All our pressure-treated decking timber is NTR-rated and comes with a 20-year consumer guarantee"

Applies to all pressure-treated timber you purchase as a private individual.
There are also different classes. Decking is normally classified as NTR-AB.

 

[Torkil]

Forum god: what difference does it make really to lay decking that is last year's wood/has been stored for a while? Then the decking is drier (than if it was brand new) and you just take that into account when laying the decking? I've also received a bit of a discount on the decking to compensate for it being "old." Am I thinking wrong?

 

[mexitegel]

Last time I checked, there was the same quality class for Byggmax decking and the cheap one that Beijer stocks. This means you can get poor-quality wood from both Beijer and Byggmax. The difference is that you can return wood to Beijer, but you can't to Byggmax. Therefore, I usually buy with a good margin and return what is left over.

Price-wise, Beijer usually does not have any problem matching Byggmax prices.

There isn't any actual disadvantage with wood that's been stored over the winter. It's just important, as mentioned, to consider the wood's moisture content during installation. The only downside is purely aesthetic, and that is if you need to complement with fresh wood, it will take a season for the color differences to even out between new and old wood.

 

[camaro1969]

haha are you also building a deck holmberg87?

I'll be doing that this summer too, I have a new thread somewhere here

(ps, I got a hydroforpump from you, delivered to statoil Gnarp about 2 years ago )

edit:
ugh holmberg wasn't the thread creator... =(