Frame screw or frame sleeve for interior door frame?

[Yrrol]

I am going to install an interior door frame.
I think the frame sleeve system looks interesting,
but I'm wondering what is preferable, frame screw or frame sleeve?

- According to Essve, you don't have to mess with wedges if you use the sleeves?

 

[Stefan N]

Sockets if you want it smooth, don't think the old model has any advantage at all.

 

[Snappahaneklanen]

I haven't installed many frames in my life, but the ones I have installed used frame sleeves. I really only have 2 negative experiences with the frame sleeves. The first is that if the stud the frame sleeve clamps against is not completely parallel with the door opening/how the frame should be, the frame tends to twist, and it's difficult to get it right. You then need to work with wedges or the stud to get a parallel surface to tighten against. I think frame screws are less sensitive to this particular phenomenon. The other slightly negative aspect is that the screws can feel oversized for a typical interior door. 7.5x60mm are HUGE screws.

 

[Mikael_L]

Karmhylsa I really like a lot. It's just a bit unfortunate that the price is higher, which I can't understand because it's not a more complicated product, quite the opposite.

The disadvantages mentioned here I agree with, but karmskruv has other disadvantages.
I have sometimes used slightly weaker screws with a sufficiently large head.
When it comes to front doors (which are heavier and often under more stress) and windows that aren't particularly light either, karmhylsa feels significantly more robust.

Yeah, you get what I'm voting for - karmhylsa!!

I haven't mounted many frames in my life but those I've mounted have been with karmhylsor.

I've mounted with both systems, at the beginning of the house build I didn't even know about karmhylsor, but then the revelation came!

 

[Matti_75]

Framequick for interior doors

 

[Daniel 109]

A sleeve doesn't lock the door in two directions like a frame screw. What does the sleeve do that a screw with a washer doesn't?

 

[boohoo]

Use sleeve anchors on the interior doors but use other screws than the intended ones. I think they are far too coarse.

 

[Patzie]

Frame sleeves I use when having a fixed frame, like a window/exterior door where you can tension it and adjust it until it's perfect, then drive in the screw. For interior doors, I use frame screws since they often don't have a fixed threshold and can't be "fastened" at the bottom; then I use the screw that locks it directly.

 

[Yrrol]

I haven't installed many frames in my life, but the ones I have installed have been with frame sleeves. I only have two negative experiences with frame sleeves. The first is that if the stud that the frame sleeve clamps to is not entirely parallel with the door opening/how the frame should be, the frame tends to twist, and it's challenging to get it right. You then need to work with wedges or the stud to get a parallel surface to tighten against. I think frame screws are less sensitive to this phenomenon. The other slightly negative aspect is that the screws can feel oversized for a regular interior door. 7.5x60mm are MASSIVE screws.

I'm going to install the door frame between two walls that stick out differently (~1cm), meaning the frame won't be parallel, so your post was especially valuable.

I'm considering buying the impact driver that Essve offers and suggests using to make a spot first, so the real screw ends up correctly. But the majority of private YouTube videos don't use it.

 

[Yrrol]

In a Danish video, they put paper under the threshold/frame. I didn't understand what they said, whether it was to get the right angle, or if you should always do it between the floor and the frame? I think that parquet and frame are wood that moves?

 

[Hennke85]

At work, we always use karmskruv with hullingar. https://www.hornbach.se/shop/Karmsk...jSFeBu50er2pWizZvnKAefhYJSB6QvbBoCfiIQAvD_BwE. Smoother than both alternatives, if the holes aren't 14 mm all the way through the frame, I would use these. Just screw them in and then back them out to the right distance. Just remember that you can't fully remove them again because then the adjustment with hullingar won't work.

 

[mickeforsberg]

To revive a thread with the right subject... I bought hinge sleeves for an interior door previously fastened with hinge screws. I thought it would result in a more stable attachment without the gaps that at least my hinge screws can have.

Either I'm doing it wrong, or a big disadvantage is that you can't force in the frame into the two attachments in the middle of the frame?
As it stands now, it tends to bulge out in the middle and then I quickly realized that I can't fix that. Or is there a solution to this?

 

[mickeforsberg]

To revive a thread with the right subject… I bought casing sleeves for an interior door previously attached with casing screws. I thought it would provide a more stable fastening without the gaps that at least my casing screws can have.

Either I'm doing something wrong, or a major disadvantage is that you can't force in the frame into the two fastenings in the middle of the frame?
As it stands now, it tends to bulge out in the middle and then I quickly noticed that I can't fix that. Or is there a solution to this?

What I did was, for some reason, use casing sleeves for the two uppermost and lowermost fastenings, and casing screws for the remaining four to be able to force the frame in.
Didn't feel entirely meaningful, might as well have just gone with casing screws straight through. Maybe it became slightly more stable with the sleeves clamping at the top and bottom at least... I imagine so anyway.
Maybe I did it wrong as I said, but my problem sounds similar to what @Snappahaneklanen describes among others.

 

[Demmpa]

To revive a thread with the right subject... I bought Karmhylsor for an interior door previously attached with karmskruv. I thought it would be a more stable attachment without the gaps that at least my karmskruv can have.

Either I'm doing something wrong or a major drawback is that you can't force in the frame into the two attachments in the middle of the frame?
As it looks now, it tends to bulge out in the middle now and then I quickly noticed that I can't fix that. Or is there a solution to this?

For karmhylsor you need loose screws, and preferably karmhylseskruv,


The karmhylseskruv holds the karmhylsan against the wall.

 

[mickeforsberg]

For frame sleeves, you need loose screws, and preferably frame sleeve screws,
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The frame sleeve screw holds the frame sleeve against the wall.

I'm with you so far! But can you adjust the sleeve if you've screwed in the screw?