Thank you, yes I think this will be good.
What is the diameter of the head of a child who can crawl?
The gap is now 13cm.
Safety is good but sometimes to an absurd degree.
Kind of like the mom in the little sledding hill who realizes she forgot the helmet and therefore doesn't let her child ride.
What is the diameter of the head of a child who can crawl?
The gap is now 13cm.
Safety is good but sometimes to an absurd degree.
Kind of like the mom in the little sledding hill who realizes she forgot the helmet and therefore doesn't let her child ride.
The only thing that got stuck in our old staircase (exactly the same, but without the guardrails) was a dachshund. It would have been much harder to free him if they had been there, because damn, they're stiff in the back and stubborn ;-)
He was visiting, and being trained for hunting, he was going to chase our cats, but there was a baby gate for the stairs so they could escape upstairs without the dog. The cats slipped up "the back way," and the dog tried to do the same, so he stood under the stairs, put his paws on the first step, twisted his head so that his chin was on the second step - and got stuck. If he had continued straight and gone up entirely on the first step, it would have been fine, but he saw the cats slip around without doing that...
He was visiting, and being trained for hunting, he was going to chase our cats, but there was a baby gate for the stairs so they could escape upstairs without the dog. The cats slipped up "the back way," and the dog tried to do the same, so he stood under the stairs, put his paws on the first step, twisted his head so that his chin was on the second step - and got stuck. If he had continued straight and gone up entirely on the first step, it would have been fine, but he saw the cats slip around without doing that...
Thought I'd do a little update.
I've now enclosed the entire staircase, it was a bit tricky to figure out how to make it look nice and how to get all the angles right, etc. I've installed LEDs on all the approximately 30 steps.
Now it just needs to be fine-filled, sanded a bit, put caps on the posts, and then everything should be painted white.
I've now enclosed the entire staircase, it was a bit tricky to figure out how to make it look nice and how to get all the angles right, etc. I've installed LEDs on all the approximately 30 steps.
Now it just needs to be fine-filled, sanded a bit, put caps on the posts, and then everything should be painted white.
Building conservationist
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Children can slip through with their body and get stuck by the head. How fun is that?Holpers said:Thank you, yes I think this will be good.
What is the diameter of the head of a child that can crawl?
The gap is now 13cm.
Safety is good but sometimes to the point of absurdity.
Like the mom on the little sledding hill who realizes she's forgotten the helmet and therefore doesn't let her child go.
YOU might not have children visiting, but the future owners of the house might not realize that the staircase is not child-safe.
Children can slip on a pine cone in the forest and hit their heads. How fun is that?Sommartorparn said:
I suggest we ban all spaces in society wider than 10cm.
At the same time, we ban all pine cones and stones.
The safety panic is absurd. How in the world can a child slip in with their whole body between the steps, 13cm, slide through with their entire body, and get stuck by the head? I have two children, neither of them can get through a 13cm gap. Note that children only start moving up and down stairs by themselves at around 2-3 years old. There are 1000 other more likely dangers around a child.
Sure, there are many dangers, but it is reasonable to follow the legal requirements that exist, it would be unfortunate to go to jail because a child was injured or even died because at some point in time one thought a requirement was silly.
To be precise, it is the regulations and advice published by Boverket that show how the Planning and Building Act should be interpreted. According to the legislation, it is Boverket responsible for doing this. However, there is no risk of imprisonment.Holpers said:
But, what the hell? Is it enough now? Am I a potential child murderer or just another guy who remodeled his 70s staircase..? A bit judgmental. The thread lost focus and died.
Pathetic, just realized why one should avoid forums...
Pathetic, just realized why one should avoid forums...
Lifting this thread a bit. How was the final result after painting and everything?
Did it hold with gypsum without cracks, etc.?
I'm considering doing exactly what you did, looks great!!!
Did it hold with gypsum without cracks, etc.?
I'm considering doing exactly what you did, looks great!!!
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· Västra Götaland
· 177 posts
I think you're absolutely right to remove them if you don't want them; I've done the same myself. However, I have saved the pieces in the attic in case future owners want them.
Regarding the safety aspect, you're absolutely right, sure it's silly to take unnecessary risks, but then you might as well remove tripping completely, think how dangerous it is.
I'm a teacher and have worked in a preschool in recent years; the children hurt themselves all the time. They slip on small stones, run into large rocks, run into each other, fall when standing completely still(!), etc. But they hardly ever hurt themselves on stairs, rocks, or anything else they know can be dangerous.
Edit: Also want to see the final result.
Regarding the safety aspect, you're absolutely right, sure it's silly to take unnecessary risks, but then you might as well remove tripping completely, think how dangerous it is.
I'm a teacher and have worked in a preschool in recent years; the children hurt themselves all the time. They slip on small stones, run into large rocks, run into each other, fall when standing completely still(!), etc. But they hardly ever hurt themselves on stairs, rocks, or anything else they know can be dangerous.
Edit: Also want to see the final result.
Glad you want to know. Unfortunately, it's not completely finished yet. Haven't had time with another child, etc.lorens said:also eager to see how nice the staircase turned out!
The plaster didn't crack, but I used those strips that you should use in the seams.
We are super satisfied. What's left to do is lay the steps, I've been unsure about what to do with the needle felt carpet on the steps. I will just put 4mm fine plywood over it and then paint white.
Then the whole staircase will be painted, along with the surrounding walls.
Here are some newer pictures. As you can see, the kids don't fall between the steps because 1 they are not 13cm narrow and 2 because we have gates anyway.
Just looking for a so-called stair compass, then the steps will be laid. Anyone want to sell/loan/rent one?
