Does Masonite withstand weather and wind?

[AG A]

I have a simple shed door that my father put together with sturdy oil-hardened masonite in the late nineties, it's no longer new and fresh, but my old man has been dead for a long time and the door outlived him and still functions as intended even if it doesn't exactly adorn its place.

Why doesn't it adorn its place anymore then? It's not even 30 years old. If masonite was such an excellent facade material, it should easily last more than 30 years on a door.

 

[useless]

But if it has worked on a cabin since the thirties without causing mold/damp damage behind, it is probably sufficient.

Does the cabin have sawdust directly inside the masonite? I have masonite on a plank frame and it has worked quite well since 1955, but in some exposed places it has warped and there it has caused minor damage to the underlying planks.

 

[fribygg]

Why doesn't it adorn its place anymore then? It's not even 30 years old. If masonite was such an excellent facade material, it should easily last more than 30 years on a door.

I don't think masonite is an excellent facade material, but it can obviously work for a long time and was quick and cheap when it was installed.

 

[fribygg]

It's written about how good masonite is, if it had worked as a facade material, surely many of the big house manufacturers would have used it for their facades as they constantly use the thinnest, cheapest, and simplest materials in their house constructions...

But that's not the case, house manufacturers rarely use 0.4mm steel sheet for facades even though it should be one of the thinnest, cheapest, and simplest materials that work as a facade, people simply want something more attractive. I think it's the same with masonite, it often works satisfactorily but people prefer more attractive facades.

 

[Plupp 405730]

But that's not the case, house manufacturers rarely use 0.4mm steel sheet for facades even though it should be one of the thinnest, cheapest, and simplest materials that work as a facade, people simply want something nicer. I think it's the same with masonite, it often works satisfactorily but people prefer nicer facades.

The fact that facades are not covered in sheet metal is due to many things, for example. They become very sensitive where the slightest imperfection is visible, the average person cannot make such a facade without turning to a sheet metal workshop when it comes to enclosures around windows and doors etc. So if masonite with wood strip had held up as a facade, many house manufacturers would definitely have used it...

 

[guggen]

That facades are not clad in metal is due to many things, such as they become very sensitive where the slightest imperfection is visible. The average person cannot create such a facade without turning to a sheet metal workshop when it comes to window and door surrounds, etc.
If Masonite with battens had held up as a facade, many house manufacturers would certainly have used it...

There are many ways to build excellent houses. Mass production of cheap houses that should suit the average Swede is probably another matter. In Sweden, it's become wooden houses with mineral wool, air gap, single panel, and plastic paint on it. It's efficient and easy to build and meets the demand.
Others build a unique house of heartwood with hygroscopic insulation and linseed oiled facade, certainly costing double compared to the catalog house.
In America, many build with plastic facades, extremely cheap and effective.
Do you see many such houses in the catalogs?

 

[Plupp 405730]

There are lots of ways to build excellent houses. Mass production of cheap houses that should suit the average Swede is probably another thing. In Sweden, it has become wooden houses with mineral wool, air gap, simple panel, and plastic paint on them. It is efficient and easy to build and meets demand.
Others build a unique house from core timber with hygroscopic insulation and linseed oiled facade, surely costs double compared to the catalog house.
In America, many build with plastic facade, extremely cheap and efficient.
Do you see many such houses in the catalogs?

You cannot compare the American houses built in warm climates with the Swedish ones, as far as I know, in the colder parts of America, the houses are not built that way.

You are welcome to believe and build in this way, but for me, it is completely wrong and I don't think it aligns with any regulations on how one can and may build a new house in Sweden in 2024.

 

[guggen]

You can't compare the American houses built in warm climates with the Swedish ones, as far as I know, in the colder parts of America, the houses aren't built that way..

You are welcome to believe and build in this way, but for me it is completely wrong and I don't think it complies with any regulations on how one can and is allowed to build a new house in Sweden in 2024..

I prefer quality materials and houses, so it's probably far from what I want.
But in Sweden, most of us also cover our wooden facades with liquid plastic, so the difference isn't that great, except that a plastic facade probably protects much better than a millimeter film of plastic that cracks.
Plastic facades can be seen all over the USA and even on a few houses in Sweden.
In which regulations do you find that one is only allowed to build the way house manufacturers do?

 

[Plupp 405730]

I prefer quality materials and houses, so it's probably far from what I want.
But in Sweden, most of us also cover our wooden facades with liquid plastic, so the difference is not so great, except that a plastic facade probably protects much better than a millimeter-thick plastic film that cracks.
Plastic facades can be seen all over the USA and even on a few houses in Sweden.
In which regulations do you find that one can only build as the house manufacturers do?

What I have said is that the house manufacturers use the thinnest, simplest, and most time-efficient materials and working methods that the regulations allow.

 

[guggen]

What I have said is that house manufacturers use the thinnest, simplest, and most time-efficient materials and methods that the regulations allow.

With the addition, "to be able to build the houses that are in demand." Many think plastic, sheet metal, or masonite facades look cheap and ugly, even though they may be just as good and probably cheaper. It's not more complicated than that. I think catalog houses are extremely ugly, others think differently.

 

[Rodgar Den Frie]

Thank you to everyone who shares their thoughts and experiences regarding Masonite as an exterior building material.

I am taking in everything you share and making an overall assessment.

I have now contacted a professor in building physics at Chalmers and asked him for his thoughts on my construction.

I hope for a response. If I get an answer, I will of course share it here so we can continue the discussion together.

Thank you all for now. Please continue to share here. I read everything with great interest.

All the best,
Rodgar

 

[Plupp 405730]

With the addition, "to be able to build the houses that are in demand." Many find plastic, sheet metal, or Masonite facades to look cheap and ugly, although they may be at least as good and probably cheaper. It's not more complicated than that. I think catalog houses are extremely ugly, others think differently.

It's starting to get quite OT, I believe everyone sees our viewpoints by now...

 

[Rodgar Den Frie]

I think it's starting to get a bit OT, I believe everyone can see our viewpoints by now...

What does OT mean?

 

[Plupp 405730]

Off topic.

 

[Rodgar Den Frie]

Off topic.

Thanks