Hello
I hope this is the right forum as it is likely a combination question of construction and law. I'm turning to all of you knowledgeable people here on the forum to get help with how we should proceed.
To make a long story short:
Bought a house in May this year, a week later the upstairs toilet was blocked, resulting in flooding that incredibly did not cause water damage, but we stopped using the upstairs toilet after a few floods.
Called the seller and told her, she was "surprised" and said that she hadn't used the upstairs toilet, but of course not why. The inspection report also notes that the floor drain is cast iron and that the entire bathroom is old.
To solve the problem, we have now torn up the bathroom to replace the entire pipe as it is cast iron.
When we tore up the floor, we discovered that two of the rafters had been cut out to place the drain pipes. Attached is a picture of the worst cutout. The other is 3 cm deep and 14 cm long.
The question is how should we proceed now?
Does it need to be reinforced in some way or can we just proceed with the renovation?
If it needs reinforcement - should we contact the seller and claim a hidden defect?
Thanks in advance!
I hope this is the right forum as it is likely a combination question of construction and law. I'm turning to all of you knowledgeable people here on the forum to get help with how we should proceed.
To make a long story short:
Bought a house in May this year, a week later the upstairs toilet was blocked, resulting in flooding that incredibly did not cause water damage, but we stopped using the upstairs toilet after a few floods.
Called the seller and told her, she was "surprised" and said that she hadn't used the upstairs toilet, but of course not why. The inspection report also notes that the floor drain is cast iron and that the entire bathroom is old.
To solve the problem, we have now torn up the bathroom to replace the entire pipe as it is cast iron.
When we tore up the floor, we discovered that two of the rafters had been cut out to place the drain pipes. Attached is a picture of the worst cutout. The other is 3 cm deep and 14 cm long.
The question is how should we proceed now?
Does it need to be reinforced in some way or can we just proceed with the renovation?
If it needs reinforcement - should we contact the seller and claim a hidden defect?
Thanks in advance!
Looked the same in my house and there's not much to do about it really. If the pipes run in the floor joists, they have to go through the joists, back then there probably weren't hole saws either.
I redid the whole thing so the drainage goes straight through the floor and hangs underneath, and those for the sink/toilet go inside the wall (wall-mounted).
I would replace everything all the way down to the basement or wherever the pipe goes so you _know_ it doesn't stop there and you get problems in the new bathroom.
I redid the whole thing so the drainage goes straight through the floor and hangs underneath, and those for the sink/toilet go inside the wall (wall-mounted).
I would replace everything all the way down to the basement or wherever the pipe goes so you _know_ it doesn't stop there and you get problems in the new bathroom.
If the floor has held since the house was built, it will most likely hold for the same amount of time again.
However, v-g has a smart idea to reroute everything straight down, as long as it doesn't come down right in the middle of the kitchen or something...
However, v-g has a smart idea to reroute everything straight down, as long as it doesn't come down right in the middle of the kitchen or something...
Thanks for the answers!
Then I think we'll just continue. However, we can't run the pipes straight down as they would end up in the middle of the living room
. Instead, they go through the floor joists via the kattvind (total about 3 m) to the main stack. And as mentioned, we're replacing everything, so it's done. It's just like the builders realized afterward that it was supposed to be a bathroom since the whole floor was raised; therefore, they've likely cut into the rafters to make it fit. We'll also reduce the size of the bathroom to make just a wc, to get a closet for one of the bedrooms. So the replaced pipes will basically go through the floor in the closet.
Then I think we'll just continue. However, we can't run the pipes straight down as they would end up in the middle of the living room
. Instead, they go through the floor joists via the kattvind (total about 3 m) to the main stack. And as mentioned, we're replacing everything, so it's done. It's just like the builders realized afterward that it was supposed to be a bathroom since the whole floor was raised; therefore, they've likely cut into the rafters to make it fit. We'll also reduce the size of the bathroom to make just a wc, to get a closet for one of the bedrooms. So the replaced pipes will basically go through the floor in the closet.