Found the drawings now - it says that the posts should be L40. From what I understand, is that a classification for outdoor use? Is it possible to find out if the posts are L40? If they are L40, what does that mean in this context?
 
Do you have the blueprints, and if so, what is specified for the posts? If you don't have the blueprints, send the pictures to the designer and ask if it's the correct choice of materials.
 
Forget about arguing and looking for someone to blame. Just empty the bath, stamp up, and replace the pillars. It’s much faster and cheaper than litigating.
 
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It is good to know what should actually be there before making a change, and if it's supposed to be glulam, it looks from the pictures like it's clear who made the mistake.
If that's the case, why should one, as a customer, reward construction fraud by paying to fix it oneself?
 
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Looking at the details, at these connection solutions and especially at this regel connection, I doubt the contractor's competence.
Deck structure showing a regel connection with metal bolts, highlighted with issues suggesting contractor's competence is in question.
 
Z z_bumbi said:
Do you have the drawings and if so, what is specified for the posts? If you don't have the drawings, send the pictures to the designer and ask if it's the correct choice of material.
“POSTS 115x115, L40”
 
Matti_75 Matti_75 said:
Forget about arguing and finding someone to blame. Just drain the bath, reinforce it, and replace the pillars. It's much quicker and cheaper than going through a legal process.
😅 Yes, if it's a simple job, one could think like that... I, who am completely unhandy, don't even know where to start looking for someone who can fix it, and realize that our whole terrace rests on 9 such pillars (i.e., it's not just under the hot tub, even though it's most visible there), feel like it's a gigantic project akin to "well, it's just about removing that brain tumor," meaning it doesn't feel that simple. But if it's easier than I think, then that's good!

Then I think it's a bit annoying money IF the house company, for example, used indoor pillars outdoors. But if it's normal for it to turn out like this after a while, then of course, we just have to accept it.
 
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L40 is the strength class, but no glulam can be left untreated outdoors.
 
ACME said:
L40 is a strength class, but no glulam can be left untreated outdoors.
There are pressure-treated glulam pillars, both NTR B and NTR A classified. NTR A from Holmen should definitely manage untreated outside, I think.
 
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J jishi said:
There are pressure-treated glulam beams, both NTR B and NTR A classified. NTR A from Holmen should absolutely manage untreated outdoors, I think.
In L40/ GL30c?
 
ACME said:
I L40/ GL30c?
GL28h in any case, not sure if it's classified as L40 too, unclear documentation I find. But I think this is NTR B timber, the one that is NTR A says C24 on it which is a bit of a strange classification for a laminated post.
 
This is the first time I have come across the L40 class. Older standards mentioned GL38, which was withdrawn due to the low availability of sawn timber needed for production. The fact that these very high classes are used for large-format elements makes me wonder about using them here. Whoever designed it oversized the structure, which can be seen in the photos - a huge glued beam supporting only the terrace? Why? The standard (what he suggested @jishi) c24/GL24c would be sufficient here

A large glued beam supporting a terrace, highlighted in yellow, showing visible structural connections and bolts.
W white_cheese said:
feels like a gigantic project
No... you have very good access from bottom. Of course, it depends on the condition of the rest of the structure. But if you have to replace even all the poles with this type of installation, it is not particularly complicated
 
From what I see in the pictures, there's nothing that would make me nervous at all.

Buy a few boxes of 6x100 screws and put them in the posts.
Done.
 
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Jarlingar Jarlingar said:
From what I see in the pictures, there's nothing that would make me nervous at all.

Buy a few boxes of 6x100 screws and secure the posts.
Done.
Yep, and a couple of large clamps to pull everything together first.
 
A good protection against rain and sunlight is beneficial for this type of constructions.
 
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