We have a hot tub (=heavy) that is placed on a recessed shelf under our terrace. It does not rest on the ground but stands on posts. When we made the arrangement, we had a designer who planned how the forces would be sustained, what dimensions were needed, etc., so that part should be correct.

The terrace itself was built at the same time as the house, by a reputable house company, in 2016. The shelf for the hot tub was retrofitted in 2022. The terrace, and thus the hot tub, rests on posts that go from beams under the terrace, down to concrete footings below ground. Now we see that vertical cracks are starting to appear in these posts (see pictures). Is this something we should be concerned about? Is it something that needs to be addressed, and if so, how? Or is it just aesthetic? The wood otherwise looks good, not rotten or anything.

Thank you in advance for good advice!
 
  • Wooden support beams with visible vertical cracks under a raised terrace. Spa setup above with iron railings. Lush landscape in the background.
  • Close-up of a wooden support post with visible vertical cracks, reinforced by a metal bracket, outdoors under a terrace.
  • Wooden post with vertical cracks supporting a terrace structure, set against a background of gravel and grass, questioning structural integrity.
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It appears to be solid wood and not laminated timber posts, and in that case, there's no risk - surface cracks will develop over time. If it were laminated timber where the glue joints are splitting, that would not be good, but as mentioned, it doesn't seem to be the case?
 
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I say the opposite. It's laminated wood that has started to crack in the glue joints. My advice is to get someone to look at it.
 
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Matti_75 Matti_75 said:
I'm saying the opposite. It's glulam that has started to crack at the glue joints. My advice is to get someone to look at it.
You're probably right!

I thought I saw whole knots on one side, but when I enlarge it, it looks more like glulam posts...

You should probably reinforce or replace them then.
 
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Matti_75 Matti_75 said:
I say the opposite. It is glulam that has started to crack in the bonding. My advice is to get someone to take a look at it.
Who (which profession) do you get to look at it?
 
T Testarn said:
You are probably right!

I thought I saw entire branches over one side, but when I enlarge it, it seems more like glulam posts...

Then you might need to reinforce or replace them.
They are reinforced when we built the "shelf" - you can see the plank running along the right edge of the post, but maybe it's not enough...
 
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W white_cheese said:
Who (which professional category) should you bring in to take a look at it?
The designer you hired should have liability insurance that can be used when there are errors in the calculations/instructions.
 
W white_cheese said:
Who (which professional category) do you bring there to look at it?
An engineer or a skilled professional. Your only option as I see it is to replace the posts.
Prop up the balcony to be able to replace the posts
 
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W white_cheese said:
They were reinforced when we built the "shelf" - you can see the plank running along the right edge of the post, but it might not be enough...
Probably yes, but a sensitive point in the construction. If it starts to rot there in the future.
 
As wrote @Matti_75 you must change posts. The wrong glue was used to glue them because they delaminate at the glue point. Moreover, as you can see below, the layers are glued "to the front" along the length instead of using micro-joints. This looks like it was made by the contractor himself and not purchased from certified material.
Close-up of wooden beams with visible delamination and improper gluing along the length; gravel and grass are in the background.
 
S sturnus said:
As wrote @Matti_75 you must change posts. The wrong glue was used to glue them because they delaminate at the glue point. Moreover, as you can see below, the layers are glued "to the front" along the length instead of using micro-joints. This looks like it was made by the contractor himself and not purchased from certified material.
Well, now you're probably guessing a bit so I feel I can continue guessing...
It's a completely ordinary glulam post, factory-made and glued entirely according to standard and with the correct glue, but for indoor use, then it becomes like that.
What you want for outdoor use is a post classified for outdoor use (and with glue for outdoor use) or a solid post.
 
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BirgitS BirgitS said:
The constructor you hired should have liability insurance that can be used when there are errors in calculations/instructions.
I suspect that we might be stuck with the short end of the stick after all... The constructor who designed the house hadn't planned for the hot tub and can probably point to it as an unplanned load. And the constructor who calculated for the hot tub can't be blamed if the existing posts were incorrect (as suggested in other replies in the thread). I guess we'll end up in between, I think resignedly... 🫤
 
Matti_75 Matti_75 said:
A designer or a skilled craftsman. Your only option as I see it is to replace the posts.
Support the balcony so you can then replace the posts
Feels encouraging... 🙄
But thanks for the answer - we'll have to consider it!
 
K Kontoristen7 said:
Well, now you're guessing a bit, so I feel like I can continue guessing...
It's a completely ordinary glulam post, factory-made and glued according to standard and with the correct glue, but for indoor use, it ends up like this.
What you want outdoors is a post classified for outdoor use (and with glue for outdoor use) or a solid post.
What is the likelihood that it is a correct post but it still ends up like this? That is to say, that it's "normal" wear and tear?

If they are incorrect posts, we might possibly pursue it with the house company, but if it's just bad luck, they naturally shouldn't be blamed for it.
 
K Kontoristen7 said:
Well, now you're probably guessing a bit so I feel like I can continue guessing...
It's a regular laminated wood post, factory-made and glued according to standard and with the correct glue, but for indoor use, then it turns out like that.
What you want for outdoor use is a post classified for outdoor use (and with glue for outdoor use) or a solid post.
Glued wood is not produced with glue on the inside! In addition, the thickness of the panels in these posts is also not typical. A properly made element should crack along the grain, and not delaminate at the glued joint. This definitely indicates poor gluing!
 
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