If you're only replacing an outlet, the waterproofing layer is not affected. However, if you do this, safety regulations must be followed. Firstly, you need to have protective ground (those shaver outlets were not connected to ground), and the outlet must be protected by a ground fault circuit interrupter (ordinary outlets were completely banned in bathrooms before we had ground fault circuit interrupters). Additionally, the outlet must be installed at a safe distance from the shower and/or bathtub. The outlet does not need to be IP44. In wet room areas where electricity should follow IP44, no outlets are allowed.
Those shaver outlets solved the safety issue through the isolation transformer; the outlet cannot conduct current to ground, so you cannot get a shock from the outlet unless you insert two wires into the holes simultaneously.
Those shaver outlets solved the safety issue through the isolation transformer; the outlet cannot conduct current to ground, so you cannot get a shock from the outlet unless you insert two wires into the holes simultaneously.
IP44 is overkill.C CarlLunk said:
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It should work with:snaggletooth said:
https://www.elbutik.se/product.html/schneider-exxact-2-vagsuttag-komplett
too if you want it sleeker?
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A) The problem is probably still relevant since CarlLunk asked as recently as 08:13 today.redarn said:
According to the electrician I've been in contact with, the best solution is to install a 4-way surface-mounted socket according to:S stugan_i_skogen said:
https://www.bauhaus.se/vagguttag-el...MI9Lr-u_nykQMV9-yyCh27UwHhEAQYASABEgKIjvD_BwE
This should be mounted in a box according to below:
https://www.bauhaus.se/apparatdosa-schneider-electric-imt37477-bp202-enkel-dubbelgips
What do you think about this?
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Box when you're using a surface-mounted outlet? Why? Isn't it enough to just install a surface-mounted outlet over an existing box, I wonder?C CarlLunk said:
Sorry, but if your electrician buys gadgets at Bauhaus, one might wonder if he really is an electrician...
According to the Swedish National Electrical Safety Board's service Kolla Elföretaget, the company is approved for this type of installation. I think I'll trust that more than where the electrician chooses to buy an Elko four-way socket.P PappasHammare said:
It might be about what was originally discussed in the thread. That the "dosan" that the transformer is in is too big for a standard recessed outlet. In that case, a solution to cover the hole could be to use a large (4-way) surface-mounted socket.C CarlLunk said:
I don't understand the connection with apparatus box. The surface-mounted socket should not have a box in the wall.
But again: In your case where it's a bathroom, how is the socket positioned in relation to the shower? Is there a ground fault circuit interrupter?
Got clarity on the box. It was just an example of a box he sent that would have needed to be inside the wall for a regular socket. A misunderstanding.H hempularen said:
The socket is placed 120 cm from the showerhead's attachment point and more than 60 cm from the edge of the bathtub. GFCI is available in the electrical panel but the protective ground is not currently installed.
Great, then it's just a matter of pulling the earth wire to the socket. And then consider if there's another way to cover the box. A large 4-way socket is not exactly a masterpiece, so it might be possible to make something more attractive.