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Build the mountain into the garage as a wall
I have received a response from the county administrative board and they do not provide any information beforehand, but they are clear on how the process works. You simply submit an application for a permit under the regulations. Then it is assessed.
I will be submitting an application where I simply outline what I would like to do.
For fornminnen, it is a bit more precarious, but I will find out more about this.
I will be submitting an application where I simply outline what I would like to do.
For fornminnen, it is a bit more precarious, but I will find out more about this.
The thought has occurred to me, the trick is that then I'll have to start looking for Hedenhös when I dig 3 meters down into the ground.Mäster said:
Another idea I have is to cut the block into walls and a roof for the "outside".
Consider the premium for your blasting insurance depending on what you have nearby plus the inspection of these properties and if someone might want to sell you insurance and what deductible you will be offered. It's almost like trying to insure a house that's already on fire.....
You probably won't get any insurance....
.cool:
You probably won't get any insurance....
The problem with a cut garage is getting the cross holes at the back, which requires that holes corresponding to the back wall can be cut from the outside.
I have watched some Norwegians in "rock prospecting" cutting large blocks from a mountainside, where they drilled a horizontal hole maybe 5-6 meters straight into the mountain, then drilled another hole from the left about 4 meters in. Then they built an earth ramp so it was possible to climb up on the rock with the drilling rig, and drilled a hole straight down that hit the other two at the meeting point. All this with a spirit level and plumb line, not laser or such.
A regular thin black water hose was threaded through, a nylon string was attached to the hose and pulled back, the saw wire was attached to the string and pulled through the mountain with the help of the string and connected. This way they could cut out large blocks right out of a mountainside. When a cut was almost finished, they stopped and switched to a "scrap wire" because the stress when cutting in a very tight radius at the end of the cut often caused the wire to break. Right at the end, they said "watch out, back up" and right after that, the wire broke and whipped at the top of a large aspen tree. They said the wire moved at about 100 km/h.
During this cutting, there was a natural crack at the bottom, so the blocks were split loose with "metal cushions" connected to a pressure washer, instead of cutting loose with a bottom cut.
I have watched some Norwegians in "rock prospecting" cutting large blocks from a mountainside, where they drilled a horizontal hole maybe 5-6 meters straight into the mountain, then drilled another hole from the left about 4 meters in. Then they built an earth ramp so it was possible to climb up on the rock with the drilling rig, and drilled a hole straight down that hit the other two at the meeting point. All this with a spirit level and plumb line, not laser or such.
A regular thin black water hose was threaded through, a nylon string was attached to the hose and pulled back, the saw wire was attached to the string and pulled through the mountain with the help of the string and connected. This way they could cut out large blocks right out of a mountainside. When a cut was almost finished, they stopped and switched to a "scrap wire" because the stress when cutting in a very tight radius at the end of the cut often caused the wire to break. Right at the end, they said "watch out, back up" and right after that, the wire broke and whipped at the top of a large aspen tree. They said the wire moved at about 100 km/h.
During this cutting, there was a natural crack at the bottom, so the blocks were split loose with "metal cushions" connected to a pressure washer, instead of cutting loose with a bottom cut.
The technology is definitely interesting, it's a bit like the magic banana, the one with ready-made slices inside the peel.
I haven't had anyone on site to concretely figure out how to do it, just found out that it is possible. The above sounds logical, but I was also told a method when working with 250mm holes.
I'm sitting and working on an application to the County Administrative Board for an exemption from the regulations.
I haven't had anyone on site to concretely figure out how to do it, just found out that it is possible. The above sounds logical, but I was also told a method when working with 250mm holes.
I'm sitting and working on an application to the County Administrative Board for an exemption from the regulations.
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Why has this thread come to a halt? How is it going? When can one come and see how the grottan turned out? :wow:
The project is alive, but I currently have too little knowledge to take the next step.
1) It is not complicated to wire saw, but who should be trusted as a supplier, most suppliers seem to prioritize larger projects and it's an entirely untested area for me.
2) Where do you put what has been cut out?
3) Will the rock above hold?
I will address the issue a bit more after the summer, but it is clear that the cost will lie in the planning and post-processing and not in the actual sawing.
1) It is not complicated to wire saw, but who should be trusted as a supplier, most suppliers seem to prioritize larger projects and it's an entirely untested area for me.
2) Where do you put what has been cut out?
3) Will the rock above hold?
I will address the issue a bit more after the summer, but it is clear that the cost will lie in the planning and post-processing and not in the actual sawing.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this project will be feasible. It would be really fun to follow.
You mentioned three points that I understood as obstacles for moving forward.
I myself have zero knowledge about such a project, but I'm trying to learn, so please overlook my questions.
1) Styrud mentioned earlier in the thread, aren't they reliable? Or do they think the project is too small?
2) Can't you blast the block into small pieces and sell it as filler material?
3) Doesn't the sawmill do the calculation of whether the rock holds?
You mentioned three points that I understood as obstacles for moving forward.
I myself have zero knowledge about such a project, but I'm trying to learn, so please overlook my questions.
1) Styrud mentioned earlier in the thread, aren't they reliable? Or do they think the project is too small?
2) Can't you blast the block into small pieces and sell it as filler material?
3) Doesn't the sawmill do the calculation of whether the rock holds?
1) These are absolutely reliable, but there will be more fimror doing the same thing. This is a technique that is very useful in many contexts. However, the price from Styrud is just an estimate, they need to see the object in detail before they can more accurately determine what they end up on.
2) Splitting is probably what you're after, but a fine granite block you don't just want to grind down. One idea is to bury it in front of as a driveway.
3) I don't know, it's not entirely simple to calculate rock, and I have another contact helping me with the first consideration. But I don't think these firms have this detailed knowledge.
The problem as I see it is that this is not a "consumer" product, which means that as an orderer, you have to be significantly more knowledgeable since a lot can go wrong. Otherwise, I think the price would be much higher. I believe that those who order this technology today know what they're getting into and have much planned out in terms of calculations and logistics.
2) Splitting is probably what you're after, but a fine granite block you don't just want to grind down. One idea is to bury it in front of as a driveway.
3) I don't know, it's not entirely simple to calculate rock, and I have another contact helping me with the first consideration. But I don't think these firms have this detailed knowledge.
The problem as I see it is that this is not a "consumer" product, which means that as an orderer, you have to be significantly more knowledgeable since a lot can go wrong. Otherwise, I think the price would be much higher. I believe that those who order this technology today know what they're getting into and have much planned out in terms of calculations and logistics.