Brick and tiles on the patio?

[Vallstad]

Hello,

I am in full swing with the planning of this project, which is set to commence next year.

As you can see, the idea is to create a conservatory/orangery. In connection with this, the idea was also born to build a low brick wall at the bottom - partly for aesthetic reasons, but also to store solar energy during the colder months.

The terrace will be elevated about 60 cm, which makes me plan to place the beams closer together and lay tiles as the floor in the conservatory. The idea is also to insulate the terrace floor from underneath. The space will be heated in winter with a fan convector connected to our geothermal system.

Do you think this is feasible, or is there too great a risk that the structure will move and the tile floor will crack?

 

[TypRätt]

Why not build the insulated floor up from the ground and then have the decking against it? In other words, it is built like any house that gets decking around it.

 

[Vallstad]

Why not build the insulated floor up from the ground and then have the decking against it? Basically, it's built like any house that gets decking around it.

The idea is really that it would be more complicated and that I'd prefer to avoid pouring a concrete foundation. But maybe it's enough to compact and place against the ground?

 

[dwd]

One option is to use 20mm granite ceramic tiles placed directly on the framework (with appropriate rubber/plastic spacers). We have this on our terrace where the hot tub is. You might expect it to be more "clunky" than it actually is; it's probably the tiles' own weight and thickness that counteract this. The gap/joint (or perhaps lack of joint) between the tiles is, however, hard to avoid.

 

[TypRätt]

Just thinking that with such a nice design, it would be a shame if bending causes the joints between the bricks to crack, or if there's an issue with the beams later and you want to replace the boards. All the glass will also weigh quite a lot, so why not do it properly from the start. Everything is built on a sturdy foundation, as they usually say. =)

 

[Vallstad]

An alternative is to use granite ceramic tiles 20mm thick that you lay directly on the frame (with suitable rubber/plastic spacers).
We have done this on our terrace where the hot tub is located. You might think it would be more "clonky" than it actually is, but it's probably the tiles' own weight and thickness that counteracts this. However, it's difficult to avoid the gap/joint (or perhaps lack of joint) between the tiles.

Hi,

That's exactly the solution I'm going to use around the outdoor kitchen. However, in the sunroom the floor will be insulated and therefore I think it should be grouted to also be able to "splash" a little with water and other things in the sunroom.

 

[Vallstad]

Just thinking that with such a nice design, it would be a shame if the flexing causes the joints between bricks to crack, or if there's an issue with the studs later and you want to replace the boards. All the glass will also weigh quite a bit, so why not do it properly from the start. Everything is built on a solid foundation, as they usually say. =)

Hi,

There's probably a lot of truth in what you write. I'll take this into the planning. Thanks!