Hello,
I have ordered acoustic panels, and 3 of them are intended to be hung on the ceiling (wood). Unfortunately, there are no given brackets for them, so now I'm trying to find a stylish and simple solution.
The panels are 120x60x7 cm and don’t weigh much (they should be able to hang on a screw directly in the panel).
The first thing I looked at was construction brackets, but they mostly seem to be flat or L-shaped. I need something U-shaped that still gives around 8 cm to the actual panel.
One alternative is to buy and bend something, but this will be my first time, so I need some tips on how to do it well (tools, materials, etc.).
I have ordered acoustic panels, and 3 of them are intended to be hung on the ceiling (wood). Unfortunately, there are no given brackets for them, so now I'm trying to find a stylish and simple solution.
The panels are 120x60x7 cm and don’t weigh much (they should be able to hang on a screw directly in the panel).
The first thing I looked at was construction brackets, but they mostly seem to be flat or L-shaped. I need something U-shaped that still gives around 8 cm to the actual panel.
One alternative is to buy and bend something, but this will be my first time, so I need some tips on how to do it well (tools, materials, etc.).
Find these 2, although neither of them is perfect:
Steel Stud C
https://www.byggmax.se/virke/stalreglar/stalregel-c-p20841
Joint Plate U
https://www.byggmax.se/gjutning-och-husgrund/byggsystem/skarvplat-u-p61014040
Steel Stud C
https://www.byggmax.se/virke/stalreglar/stalregel-c-p20841
Joint Plate U
https://www.byggmax.se/gjutning-och-husgrund/byggsystem/skarvplat-u-p61014040
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The brackets you have sketched work well. There are such ready-made ones. However, it will not be a concealed mount.
For the function you are looking for (sound absorption within the speech area), it works fine to mount a 70 mm sound absorber directly against the ceiling. You can use superfix and some props, or alternatively Velcro (though it will hang down a few mm).
Another option if you want to create an air gap (for better absorption at low frequencies) is to glue on 4 pieces of 0.7 mm metal sheets (10 x 10 cm) and drill for 4 neodymium magnets in the ceiling. You can then adjust the air gap with the help of the screw length (there are magnets that are pre-drilled).
For the function you are looking for (sound absorption within the speech area), it works fine to mount a 70 mm sound absorber directly against the ceiling. You can use superfix and some props, or alternatively Velcro (though it will hang down a few mm).
Another option if you want to create an air gap (for better absorption at low frequencies) is to glue on 4 pieces of 0.7 mm metal sheets (10 x 10 cm) and drill for 4 neodymium magnets in the ceiling. You can then adjust the air gap with the help of the screw length (there are magnets that are pre-drilled).
That last solution sounded very smooth! The company itself says they should be glued to the wall and ceiling, but I don't want to glue anything as it becomes very difficult to restore. A few holes in the ceiling are quite easy to restore.
If you glue tiles as you mean, you get a bit of margin for adjustment, but the question is whether 10x10 cm is enough for the fibers not to give way over time?
Another thought might be to use a soldering iron to make 4 holes in the tile at each end and then thread a long screw with a round large washer against the tile. In this way, I could also adjust the height, but it becomes clearly more difficult since you can't see how far up you've screwed the tile.
By the way, where do you buy such brackets ready-made?
If you glue tiles as you mean, you get a bit of margin for adjustment, but the question is whether 10x10 cm is enough for the fibers not to give way over time?
Another thought might be to use a soldering iron to make 4 holes in the tile at each end and then thread a long screw with a round large washer against the tile. In this way, I could also adjust the height, but it becomes clearly more difficult since you can't see how far up you've screwed the tile.
By the way, where do you buy such brackets ready-made?
Been on a round at various hardware stores now, found strips to put on the back for those that will hang on the walls (protrudes 8 mm (8x21) from the wall). Also bought adhesive which I hope works: Pattex Monteringslim
It's a bit trickier with those that should be mounted on the ceiling unfortunately. Screws with 7 cm without threads seem rather difficult, especially if they shouldn't be extremely long. Moreover, the large washers also have very large holes and stacking several washers on top of each other doesn't look very nice.
The solution with magnets sounds interesting but the sheet metal on the back would likely cover quite a bit, maybe 10x10 cm each, which would probably reduce the functionality. Plus, one doesn't really know how durable the fiber truly is—will they hold up like that without the outer fibers giving in over time? Sure, the manufacturer advocates gluing but then they glue the entire back, not just a small area.
Leaning towards having holders made by a metalworker.
The panels are probably intended to handle speech and echo primarily, which is why they say they should be mounted directly on the substrate. According to them, however, there is an improvement if you can create an air gap.
It's a bit trickier with those that should be mounted on the ceiling unfortunately. Screws with 7 cm without threads seem rather difficult, especially if they shouldn't be extremely long. Moreover, the large washers also have very large holes and stacking several washers on top of each other doesn't look very nice.
The solution with magnets sounds interesting but the sheet metal on the back would likely cover quite a bit, maybe 10x10 cm each, which would probably reduce the functionality. Plus, one doesn't really know how durable the fiber truly is—will they hold up like that without the outer fibers giving in over time? Sure, the manufacturer advocates gluing but then they glue the entire back, not just a small area.
Leaning towards having holders made by a metalworker.
The panels are probably intended to handle speech and echo primarily, which is why they say they should be mounted directly on the substrate. According to them, however, there is an improvement if you can create an air gap.