Hi,
I'm sitting here frustrated about dragging a hose across the yard, thinking of burying a PEM hose instead and building a permanent water spout over there... the question is how to best anchor it in the ground. I assume I dig a proper hole and cast something in place, but those common post shoes seem pretty weak, considering there will be some force when pulling the hose and maybe even wanting to hang hoses on the wood?
Does anyone have a good idea for a solution that holds?
I'm sitting here frustrated about dragging a hose across the yard, thinking of burying a PEM hose instead and building a permanent water spout over there... the question is how to best anchor it in the ground. I assume I dig a proper hole and cast something in place, but those common post shoes seem pretty weak, considering there will be some force when pulling the hose and maybe even wanting to hang hoses on the wood?
Does anyone have a good idea for a solution that holds?
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· Västra Götaland
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A ground screw maybe? Ground anchors that are square like 95x95 post feel quite stable.
The regular ones with just a pin are rather weak
http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Monteringsdetaljer/Stolp--och-balksko/Jordankare-2000020958/
http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Monte...och-balksko/Stolpfaste-med-platta-2000023549/
The regular ones with just a pin are rather weak
http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Monteringsdetaljer/Stolp--och-balksko/Jordankare-2000020958/
http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Monte...och-balksko/Stolpfaste-med-platta-2000023549/
before we consider how you should do it. wondering if you have access to compressed air so you can blow it out before freezing temperatures.
bury a hose. fasten the hose with longer iron like rebar.
cast at the ends
and then a wooden construction with a tap on the plate at the location. garden hose between pem and tap.
bury a hose. fasten the hose with longer iron like rebar.
cast at the ends
and then a wooden construction with a tap on the plate at the location. garden hose between pem and tap.
Cast two (four) post bases that you fasten a wooden post into, http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Monteringsdetaljer/Stolpjarn/
Screw a tap onto the post, https://www.rinkabyror.se/artikel/tappkran-med-vaggfaste/
Connect the PEM hose directly to the tap, http://www.rinkabyror.se/artikel/prk-402-20x15r-inv/
Edit: if the PEM hose is to be cast into the foundation, it is smart to run a thicker hose outside the PEM hose, with the thicker hose being cast in place with the PEM hose movable inside. If desired, the thicker hose can be run almost all the way up to the tap.
Screw a tap onto the post, https://www.rinkabyror.se/artikel/tappkran-med-vaggfaste/
Connect the PEM hose directly to the tap, http://www.rinkabyror.se/artikel/prk-402-20x15r-inv/
Edit: if the PEM hose is to be cast into the foundation, it is smart to run a thicker hose outside the PEM hose, with the thicker hose being cast in place with the PEM hose movable inside. If desired, the thicker hose can be run almost all the way up to the tap.
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Could look nice with a hollow pole and the piping running up inside it, avoiding seeing the hose.
You don't need to bend the PEM tube up at the tap, there are angled fittings of the type I linked to, and there are also other types of taps where you screw the tap into the "post".
You can also build the post from, for example, two posts and carve out the posts where they will be against each other so that the tube, etc., fits.
You can also build the post from, for example, two posts and carve out the posts where they will be against each other so that the tube, etc., fits.
Thank you, they didn't cost much! Does it have to stick up 5 cm above ground as the instructions say? Do they mean the concrete edge or the plinth iron? I would prefer to see as little of it as possible.Tosse said:
Lifting an old thread as it is relevant for me soon as well.
I will install 3 drainpipes on posts (possibly 70mm) with external hoses in the garden, the height of the posts will be between 40-80cm approximately.
The ground is 20cm of topsoil and then very hard packed rocky fill, so ground anchors are not an option. It is tight in several places so I cannot dig a hole much bigger than the concrete foundation itself, which means at best I might get down 30-35cm.
Is it enough to cast a concrete plinth that is 20x30cm, will it be stable enough? Or do you need to go down 50-60cm for the post to withstand horizontal forces from hose pulling and children playing?
I will install 3 drainpipes on posts (possibly 70mm) with external hoses in the garden, the height of the posts will be between 40-80cm approximately.
The ground is 20cm of topsoil and then very hard packed rocky fill, so ground anchors are not an option. It is tight in several places so I cannot dig a hole much bigger than the concrete foundation itself, which means at best I might get down 30-35cm.
Is it enough to cast a concrete plinth that is 20x30cm, will it be stable enough? Or do you need to go down 50-60cm for the post to withstand horizontal forces from hose pulling and children playing?
Has it been resolved? I dug down one of those ready-made pillars from byggmax and it holds sufficiently.M M_H said:Reviving an old thread as it will soon be relevant to me as well.
I will install 3 outlets on posts (possibly 70mm) with external hoses in the garden, the height of the posts will be between 40-80cm approximately.
The ground is 20cm of topsoil and then very hard-packed rocky fill, so ground anchors are not an option. It is tight in several places so I cannot dig a hole much larger than the concrete foundation itself, which means that at best I might be able to go down 30-35cm.
Is it enough to cast a concrete pillar that is 20x30cm, will it be stable enough? Or do I need to go down 50-60cm for the pole to withstand horizontal forces from hose pulling and children playing?
Personally, I did the same thing this spring, but have fastened the faucets in four places on the patio.
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