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I've been wondering for a long time, is there really any advantage to laying a concrete roof or a tile roof??
It's not fast. It requires a stronger roof structure, which means more expensive rafters/beams. It requires root barriers/underlay=more expensive. The lifespan/tightness?
If some say, the appearance. Yes, but there is sand-coated roof sheet metal today, which looks like a tile roof... but faster, simpler, cheaper installation overall.
Am I way off base here?
It's not fast. It requires a stronger roof structure, which means more expensive rafters/beams. It requires root barriers/underlay=more expensive. The lifespan/tightness?
If some say, the appearance. Yes, but there is sand-coated roof sheet metal today, which looks like a tile roof... but faster, simpler, cheaper installation overall.
Am I way off base here?
...and proven over many years, I think that's the reason.
Surely there are others who have different opinions...why
Who wants to repaint their peeling metal roof after 20 years? And how do you walk on it without it going from 2-kupigt to 3-kupigt :S.
And råspont is not so expensive......
If you look at the house and cost......the roof is the cheapest in relation to the rest.
People throw in 200-250 tuss into a bathroom without batting an eye...but scream that the roof is expensive when it might cost a 1/4 of the bathroom's cost.
The roof is among the most important on a house....if the roof isn’t decent, that bathroom will likely be pretty shabby after a while.
Replaced my tile roof with concrete tiles instead...they weigh the same today, same color, better price...denser...
Underlay, battens, tiles, roof steps, about 100sqm =18 tuss...it feels good to know you have a new roof.
But surely others, as I said, have good arguments against me and for other things.
Even if I were to get sandstone-coated metal roofing for free, I would say no and pay for a tile/concrete roof
Surely there are others who have different opinions...why
Who wants to repaint their peeling metal roof after 20 years? And how do you walk on it without it going from 2-kupigt to 3-kupigt :S.
And råspont is not so expensive......
If you look at the house and cost......the roof is the cheapest in relation to the rest.
People throw in 200-250 tuss into a bathroom without batting an eye...but scream that the roof is expensive when it might cost a 1/4 of the bathroom's cost.
The roof is among the most important on a house....if the roof isn’t decent, that bathroom will likely be pretty shabby after a while.
Replaced my tile roof with concrete tiles instead...they weigh the same today, same color, better price...denser...
Underlay, battens, tiles, roof steps, about 100sqm =18 tuss...it feels good to know you have a new roof.
But surely others, as I said, have good arguments against me and for other things.
Even if I were to get sandstone-coated metal roofing for free, I would say no and pay for a tile/concrete roof
I simply obtained quotes for a complete roof of different types, and the result was that concrete roofing turned out to be the cheapest overall. Icopal decra was the most expensive, closer to 270 kronor per square meter I believe (closer to 300 if not more, as I recall, for the glossy black that I was interested in at the time), versus about 70 kronor per square meter for concrete tiles, 100 kronor for regular sheet metal, approximately 150 for shingle roofing, and 200-250 for tile depending on the type.
This is without raw board and felt, but with battens, fittings, windboards, and necessary sheet metal.
I am now in the process of laying Mjöbäckspannan MP201 (light gray) on my allmogeblue garage.
This is without raw board and felt, but with battens, fittings, windboards, and necessary sheet metal.
I am now in the process of laying Mjöbäckspannan MP201 (light gray) on my allmogeblue garage.
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Tocke, I dispute that about peeling metal roofs after 20 years... today's treatments for metal are considerably better than 20-30 years ago. Even IF the paint would peel, it's still entirely watertight! You can't say that about roof tiles after 20 years.
The biggest advantage of metal roofs is probably that it's quick to make a house rainproof.
Well, I'm still in favor of high-quality metal roofs. (though not Buildmax 0.4 mm or trp 20)
The biggest advantage of metal roofs is probably that it's quick to make a house rainproof.
Well, I'm still in favor of high-quality metal roofs. (though not Buildmax 0.4 mm or trp 20)
I'm not willing to give inimported_jo said:
but with the reservation of who the supplier is... we (I) tend to chase the cheapest, and then you get what you pay for.You can probably show that my opinion doesn't apply on a roof... while I can prove the opposite.
I wrote my personal opinion... hence nothing says it's right
But the roofer I've used told me that there's now a problem with the extremely popular aluzinc and especially with the surface treatment... so we can agree that tiles are the best after all
(It yellows)But as I said, in general, I don't wish for a metal roof over my head
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I understand that it is your personal opinion, and I respect that. But the fact that the aluzinc turns yellow is not good, yet I haven't seen many tile/concrete roofs that are clean... many have stains, etc. Not attractive.
Just as I obviously respect yours.imported_jo said:
It's clear that tile/concrete roofs get dirty and especially where the antenna is...because that's the birds' little poop haven.
I've argued a lot with my neighbor about this with metal roofs...he's for...and I'm against.
He has put metal on his extension...and if we've been in there when it rains, I feel that it sounds more...but that could just be "imagination" because I'm anti-metal roof.
What do you think?
Metal roofs are a quick, easy, and cheap way to make something watertight. On smaller outbuildings, I think regular corrugated metal works very well. The claim that there are metal roofs that look like tiles is something you'll have to own. I am not fond of imitations. Real standing seam metal roofs are attractive even on larger houses, but then it's no longer cheap.
Tile roofs can last a very long time. If you don't let moss grow thick, the tiles can last for hundreds of years. If there's damage, it's easy to replace individual tiles. It's not as simple with metal.
Erik
Tile roofs can last a very long time. If you don't let moss grow thick, the tiles can last for hundreds of years. If there's damage, it's easy to replace individual tiles. It's not as simple with metal.
Erik
I believe that it is appearance and tradition combined with lifespan that make clay/concrete tiles the most common, as well as the fact that they don't rattle in the rain.
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I agree that regular roofing sheet metal has a higher noise level in the rain, but the sheet metal I put on the cabin last year is this sandstone-coated roofing sheet metal from Planja. You can barely hear anything during a heavy downpour.
Additionally, you avoid those ugly snow guards. Since the sheet metal is sand-coated, the snow stays in place and can't really slide...
With extreme amounts of snow, it can "layer" itself, and, for example, half the thickness can slide off. This is a good advantage because with large amounts of snow, regular snow guards do not hold up and break, often resulting in roof damage!
Additionally, you avoid those ugly snow guards. Since the sheet metal is sand-coated, the snow stays in place and can't really slide...
With extreme amounts of snow, it can "layer" itself, and, for example, half the thickness can slide off. This is a good advantage because with large amounts of snow, regular snow guards do not hold up and break, often resulting in roof damage!