heimlaga said:
The fewer tools you need, the cheaper you are completely independent of time spent. The wage can indeed be left unpaid, but not the tool purchases.
One of the more memorable arguments was when we were supposed to move 20 cubic meters of gravel and the boss thought it was too expensive with wheelbarrows, so everything had to be carried in buckets. Another memorable argument was when it was considered cheaper to stand and saw large amounts of wall studs with a handsaw than to bring in a circular saw... and then the same boss had the nerve to demand unpaid overtime because it was going too slowly with the partitions.
The cheapest contractor is popular among customers, and the cheapest contractor lacks tools by definition.
The hourly rate for the customer is the same regardless of whether the craftsman has tools or not, because it is the market that determines the price and not the number of tools. However, a craftsman with high time expenditure will struggle when times are tough.
I don't think TS here is spreading any joyful words about their craftsman directly...
 
A dosfräs is neither expensive nor uncommon to need if you work as a carpenter, and the hole in one set is now also cheap.
 
Apparently, the carpenter used a slot cutter. The question is whether he thought it was worth investing in a Hole in one or not. In hindsight, one can conclude that it was a bit too expensive for him.
 
It is more likely that the craftsman misplaced the correct hole saw and instead used the nearest one available because he judged that it wouldn't be visible once the light switch was in place. Careless of the craftsman, but if he had gone to get a new one, we would instead see a thread where the OP complained about having to pay for the craftsman going tool shopping.
 
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I had a craftsman who used to charge for tools that were consumed on my job, like tile drill bits, hole saws, and other things that broke! He thought it was very logical that I should pay for it :-)
 
I had to pay for the rental of an air purifier when my bathroom was being decontaminated. I find it a bit strange when they're only dealing with demolition and decontamination :S But of course, it was cheaper for them.
 
Yes, regardless of who rented it, the final bill would have ended up with you.

Was it perhaps cheaper (good contacts?) if you rented?
 
A true craftsman can manage to make a hole without a hole saw if it turns out they've forgotten to bring a T70, sure it takes a bit longer but turns out just as well.

Then I have experience with certain so-called senior craftsmen not caring about the appearance, they are just there to make money since they have played their pension cards wrong.
 
That's not how you do it. You get a worse product than if the klutz had used the correct tools.

Aside from the risk of the gypsum cracking if the boxes aren't set properly, the problem is that you'll get bumps around the boxes when the painter fixes it. This means there will be gaps around the wall outlets, which is frustrating if you're particular about details.

And no, the frames don't usually cover an 80-hole in width.

If nothing is agreed upon and you take it to court, I doubt you would win. But I would have brought someone else to replace the panels if they refused to fix it and deducted the cost from the klutz's invoice.
 
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ronolo said:
If you disregard the risk of the plaster cracking if the boxes aren't perfectly aligned, the problem is that you'll end up with plaster mounds around the boxes when the painter fixes it. This means there will be gaps around the wall outlets, which is unfortunate if you're particular about details.
If we disregard whether it's the correct or incorrect hole saw used, I don't understand why a repair and filling would result in plaster mounds. A repair, if done correctly, should be at the same level as the board.
If there's a gap, it means the box is too far out.

If you get plaster mounds after you've filled and sanded, you're doing something wrong.
 
It's probably not a carpenter who did that....it's an amateur who has seen somewhere that they used T80 for 70 boxes in OSB but then didn't understand that in drywall you use T70 box cutter.
 
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Enk Projektet said:
That is probably not a carpenter who did that... it's an amateur who has seen somewhere that they used T80 for 70 boxes in OSB but then didn't understand that in plaster you use a T70 hole saw.
Why should one use 80 for OSB?
That was new to me!
 
It's not something you should do, but it's possible to do it that way and then you don't need to measure so precisely where to drill.
 
To save time.
 
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