I haven't used it myself, but it is type approved, just like Casco and the other "big" brands. The question has come up before and many people believe that one should not buy low-cost products, especially when it comes to waterproofing. However, I think this opinion is based on an overestimation that price=quality. If it's approved, it's good enough, in my opinion (as well as SP, the Swedish testing and research institute). Science carries much more weight than unfounded opinions when I choose products.
In fact, the price difference in the end is less than you might think.
I did some calculations on the material consumption and found that Biltema was only 500 SEK cheaper than Casco at Bauhaus. I based this on a 10 sqm bathroom, with primers and everything.
When I looked at Casco at CoopForum, it turned out to be cheaper than Biltema.
I did some calculations on the material consumption and found that Biltema was only 500 SEK cheaper than Casco at Bauhaus. I based this on a 10 sqm bathroom, with primers and everything.
When I looked at Casco at CoopForum, it turned out to be cheaper than Biltema.
I used low-cost products in a bedroom, filler and primer. This was the biggest mistake I've made.
Usually, I am satisfied after two rounds of filling when using filler from brand-name products. After four rounds of low-cost filler, I gave up and bought real filler and had to start from scratch.
Similarly, the primer was not as covering and not as "forgiving" when it came to the few blemishes that remained.
I believe there's a reason why craftsmen use brand-name goods.
My recommendation now is to invest in real stuff; I think it pays off if you factor in the time element.
//Anders
Usually, I am satisfied after two rounds of filling when using filler from brand-name products. After four rounds of low-cost filler, I gave up and bought real filler and had to start from scratch.
Similarly, the primer was not as covering and not as "forgiving" when it came to the few blemishes that remained.
I believe there's a reason why craftsmen use brand-name goods.
My recommendation now is to invest in real stuff; I think it pays off if you factor in the time element.
//Anders
one shouldn't rely too much on SP, there are pure crap products that are "approved," so I think one should try to find out what really applies.Bob_the_builder said:
"Science" weighs lighter than factual expertise, in other words, talk to some tilers, they should know.
Well, hello there. The tiler buys "expensive" branded goods cheaper than Biltema items. Of course, they say that you can't trust low-price products. The cheap products drive the DIY trend, which takes work from the professionals.pappskallen said:
Feel free to elaborate on the fact that there are type-approved junk products...
For me, it's not at all obvious! A good craftsman gives straightforward honest answers, the DIY category won't buy the service anyway so he loses nothing by saying it like it is. Also, I've received tips on low-cost products that are absolutely excellent! However, some Timell-copycats seem to have a great skepticism towards craftsmen (who of course only want to protect their own market. ) No, take advice from those who really know and avoid hassle! An example of a large difference in class is, for example, self-leveling compound where Ardex (in my opinion is superb) self-levels much better than some other products. As for "crappy products," I don't want to name names, but I KNOW there are things that shouldn't get the status the SP stamp gives. Moreover, there are properties that SP doesn't test (e.g., aging properties) and therefore one should consult with those who work with the stuff on a daily basis! So once again: having SP as a reference point, I don't think goes very far! Quality encompasses so much more.
) No, take advice from those who really know and avoid hassle! An example of a large difference in class is, for example, self-leveling compound where Ardex (in my opinion is superb) self-levels much better than some other products. As for "crappy products," I don't want to name names, but I KNOW there are things that shouldn't get the status the SP stamp gives. Moreover, there are properties that SP doesn't test (e.g., aging properties) and therefore one should consult with those who work with the stuff on a daily basis! So once again: having SP as a reference point, I don't think goes very far! Quality encompasses so much more.Invest these extra kronor and be on the safe side, the so-called expensive brands have a much more developed system and a safer age-resistance. All systems are about the same in a year, but after ten years you don't want to redo the bathroom every other year, even if it would be fun and fresh.
Per
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If I'm not completely mistaken, it's Litokol that manufactures Biltema's products (might be named something similar). When we bought tiles from a major tile company in Järfälla, they sold the same products (but not under the Biltema name). The prices were significantly higher.
We used the products and they worked perfectly. Very easy to work with and with excellent results.
You rarely get what you pay for when it comes to branded products. It is actually obvious that branded products are always significantly more expensive than what is reflected in their quality. That's the whole point of brands. To get customers to pay for something that isn't really there, an extra "security."
We used the products and they worked perfectly. Very easy to work with and with excellent results.
You rarely get what you pay for when it comes to branded products. It is actually obvious that branded products are always significantly more expensive than what is reflected in their quality. That's the whole point of brands. To get customers to pay for something that isn't really there, an extra "security."
Just because it's the same manufacturer, doesn't necessarily mean it's the same product??mrx said:
Just because it's the same manufacturer doesn't mean it's the same product.
There can be more or less of different components in the product.
So if possible, compare the content and the amount of each in the products to see if it's the same.
It's the same as with everything else.
Groceries: Large well-known brands manufacture cheap unbranded products, but not with the same content.
Electronics: Same story.
Etc.
There, one usually chooses quality, but for something seemingly "unimportant" like house construction, the cheaper, lower-quality product is chosen.
There can be more or less of different components in the product.
So if possible, compare the content and the amount of each in the products to see if it's the same.
It's the same as with everything else.
Groceries: Large well-known brands manufacture cheap unbranded products, but not with the same content.
Electronics: Same story.
Etc.
There, one usually chooses quality, but for something seemingly "unimportant" like house construction, the cheaper, lower-quality product is chosen.
For my part (who asked the question), it was about it in general and not specifically this product; I don't even have a theory on whether it would be in one way or another, nor if it is a good or bad product. The problem is that, as a layperson, you cannot determine this; it’s just as difficult as determining if meat is Swedish or how many by-products the gasoline contains. Things like the country of origin, chemical compositions, and similar attributes are, of course, very difficult to pinpoint, and quality is a relative concept.
Therefore: consult with those who work with the stuff (note, not the salespeople at the tile store, carpenter shop, or whatever it might be) and also ask them to justify their answers!
Additionally, the items could be manufactured in another country (parallel import) with different property requirements. Compare, for example, with a car that often has, for instance, weaker battery performance among other modifications, if sold new in the south.......
Therefore: consult with those who work with the stuff (note, not the salespeople at the tile store, carpenter shop, or whatever it might be) and also ask them to justify their answers!
Additionally, the items could be manufactured in another country (parallel import) with different property requirements. Compare, for example, with a car that often has, for instance, weaker battery performance among other modifications, if sold new in the south.......
There are certainly low-priced products that are perfectly okay. But how do you know which ones are good and which ones are so-called? The reason professionals use well-known brands is that they have to work quickly and provide a warranty on their work. Additionally, they get very good discounts on branded items, so they don't need to bother with low-priced products.
In the case of Biltema Litokol, the contents of the cans need to match. That’s why Litokol can hide its brand behind the Biltema brand. This doesn't automatically mean that Biltema's products are bad, but they presumably consist of cheaper raw materials, just like everything else at Biltema. The brand Biltema = cheap and decent.
In the case of Biltema Litokol, the contents of the cans need to match. That’s why Litokol can hide its brand behind the Biltema brand. This doesn't automatically mean that Biltema's products are bad, but they presumably consist of cheaper raw materials, just like everything else at Biltema. The brand Biltema = cheap and decent.