Hello! I'm thinking of building a trellis along our property facing a bike path, mostly because we've trimmed down our måbär hedge and it will take many years before it reaches its maximum height, and even then it won't be higher than 1.50m. So, for a bit of a sense of enclosure and privacy for the property.

I've checked with the municipality, and it's okay to build 1.80m high with 50% air.

My question is how to build it to ensure as little visibility as possible? I've come up with a few different ideas.

1. Set 28x45 battens the "wrong" way—meaning 28mm vertically and 45mm horizontally—which should reduce visibility a bit, while still having 50% air between the battens, i.e., 28mm. Can I screw them on in that direction without them splitting, and will it look okay?

2. Angle the battens downwards/upwards somehow. Is this allowed? There would still be 50% air between the battens, but you won't be able to see straight in. I also don't have any special tools, so the question is if this can be done in a simple way?

3. Use very small battens, e.g., 25x25, to create small gaps between them. I imagine, however, that it would be a lot of work to set such small battens over a length of 15m and a height of 1.80m.

Feel free to dismiss any idea directly or come up with a better suggestion. Applying for and building a fence would be way too expensive for what we had planned to spend; the idea is for it to be a relatively quick and cheap job.
 
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It is the perceived airiness that limits, not an exact measure of area coverage from an "optimal" angle.
 
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A ajn82 said:
It is the perceived airiness that limits, not an exact measure of surface coverage from an "optimal" angle.
Okay, so there's no point at all in trying to create angles, etc., to get a little worse transparency?
 
As I understand it, it is not allowed no
 
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A ajn82 said:
It is the perceived airiness that limits, not an exact measure of surface coverage from an "optimal" angle.
How are climbing plants classified?
 
Insert a drawing of the garden where the privacy issue is evident.
 
engs engs said:
How are climbing plants classified?
They can be used and do not count as a fence.
 
If you can build denser fences or the equivalent up to a certain height, you gain a lot of privacy if you have that at the base.
Then go with option 1 for the rest.
Add some climbing plants, either to cut off certain angles or along the entire trellis.
Finally, check if it's possible to cut off any remaining angles in another way inside the garden.
 
yonna yonna said:
Include a drawing of the garden showing where the privacy issue is evident.
The red section is along the bike/pedestrian path, and I was also considering the green section to prevent visibility for those coming from the south, but I'm waiting for a response from the neighbor.

Now that the hedge is cut down, it almost feels like people are cycling on our property; you can just step right in.
 
  • A satellite view of a property with a red line along a path and a green line near the house, indicating areas considered for privacy enhancement.
Z z_bumbi said:
If you're allowed to build denser fences or similar up to a certain height, you gain a lot of privacy if you have it at the bottom.
Then go with variant 1 for the rest.
Add some climbing plants, either to cut off certain angles or along the entire trellis.
Finally, see if it's possible to cut off any remaining angles in another way within the garden.
We can build completely dense up to 1.1m, but I'm not sure if it affects the view in any way? Maybe a bit too curious kids :D
 
It will be relatively expensive to espalier all the way along the walkway. However, you can expect the måbär hedge to recover quite quickly if you also give it a little extra care by keeping weeds away, fertilizing, and watering. In 2 years, it will be a substantial hedge. The advantage of måbär is that it is the hedge that starts earliest in the spring.

How high is the protection at the patio? Since it is adjacent to the house, it is better to invest in a stylish, higher angled fence. If it is now rejuvenated, maintained regularly, and not kept too wide, it can be kept higher than 110 cm.
 
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yonna yonna said:
It becomes relatively expensive to espalier all the way along the walkway. However, you can expect the måbär hedge to recover quite quickly if you also tend to it a little extra by keeping weeds away, fertilizing, and watering. In 2 years, it will be a robust hedge. The advantage of måbär is that it's the hedge that buds the earliest in spring.

How high is the screen by the patio? Since this is adjacent to the house, it's better to invest in a nice, higher angled fence.
I read that you should ideally let a måbär hedge grow 10cm per year, max 20 so that it becomes strong. But perhaps it can grow faster than that? But anyway, I don't think måbär can grow high enough to provide privacy?

The patio is 1.90 high, so we have privacy there, it was mainly for the garden I wanted extra.

Yes, regarding the cost, it might get too expensive.. But I might consider just having it halfway, along the backside, and then a hedge for the rest, that's just parking anyway.
 
Releasing 10 cm/year applies to new planting. This one is older and should have strong base branches and should be able to be released faster.
 
yonna yonna said:
Allowing it to grow 10 cm/year applies to new planting. This one is older and should have strong base branches and should be able to grow faster.
Oh, that sounds good! Maybe it will grow faster than I thought then.
 
It wasn't meant to shout... the text was blacked out for some strange reason... :thinking:
 
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