Spruttas Siggelito3000 said:
How is it that when the TS asks a question about asbestos, there are answers after answers suggesting it's totally fine, even that everyone breathes in asbestos fibers everywhere without any danger, but when someone, for example, wants to remove a plastic carpet, there are just as many answers saying that there might be asbestos in the glue etc. and that one should not remove the carpet oneself?
perhaps because asbestos is not that dangerous. That one is making a qualified guess. I don't recall anything about carpets and that everyone says you shouldn't do it yourself.
 
Bananskalare Bananskalare said:
maybe because asbestos is not so dangerous. That you make an educated guess. Now I don't have in memory anything about carpets and that everyone then says you shouldn't do it yourself.
Countless times I have read that carpets should be sent for analysis and firms suitable for removing that type of carpets should do the job. But the fear of asbestos might be exaggerated, which can be good to know.
 
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Spruttas Siggelito3000 said:
Countless times I've read that carpets should be sent for analysis and firms suitable for removing this type of carpet should do the job. But the fear of asbestos may be overplayed, which might be good to know.
Asbestos can be present in both the carpet and adhesive, which increases the risk of releasing asbestos fibers into the space. The risk may be on par with sawing asbestos cement sheets. Simply carrying out a whole asbestos sheet for disposal is considered completely harmless.
 
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Spruttas Siggelito3000 said:
Countless times I have read that carpets should be sent for analysis and companies suitable for tearing out that type of carpet should do the job. But the fear of asbestos might be exaggerated, which can be good to know.
the analysis is usually the OP themselves who want to do it
Then the answers are after the question. I have not experienced the answers being as you say. However, the OP often asks whether to test or not
I would probably read a little better.
 
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I have both searched and posted about glue and plastic mats in this forum, and yes, my opinion is the same as Siggelito3000, that one is advised to send samples, and rightly so. Removing a larger mat with asbestos requires extra care beyond what you usually do. That some people don't care is their responsibility and that of those around them.

Drop that talk about reading difficulties, there's no reason to play the bully.
 
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Not a damn thread about asbestos again, could this be the 1000th one on byggahus.se?

No, asbestos is not deadly. Those who died from asbestos were smokers who worked in the asbestos factories.

There's probably no private individual who has died from coming into contact with asbestos at home in their house.

I cannot understand where this scare propaganda comes from.....
 
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Bananskalare Bananskalare said:
maybe because asbestos is not that dangerous. That you make an educated guess. Now I don't recall anything about carpets and that everyone says you shouldn't do it yourself.
Bananskalare Bananskalare said:
maybe because asbestos is not that dangerous. That you make an educated guess. Now I don't recall anything about carpets and that everyone says you shouldn't do it yourself.
"Is not that dangerous" You're too funny. Tell that to the 1000 people in Sweden who die from asbestos-related diseases every year.
 
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Thank you so much for all the engaging responses!!! Appreciated!
 
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T tank77 said:
No, asbestos is not life-threatening. Those who died from asbestos were smokers who worked at the asbestos factories.

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Know-it-all? Spreader of crap, I would say.
 
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Not another damn thread about asbestos, could this be the 1000th one on byggahus.se?

No, asbestos is not deadly. Those who died from asbestos were smokers who worked at asbestos factories.

I don't think there's any private individual who has died from coming into contact with asbestos at home.

I can't understand where this fear-mongering comes from.....
You're so tired of threads about asbestos, yet you still feel the need to write? You understand that it's a "never ending story" for many more years to come? Why? Well, because almost all authorities and articles that cover the topic point it out as hazardous to health, so much so that a license is required for remediation.

Here's an article that might be interesting to read: https://www.byggnadsarbetaren.se/nya-larmsiffror-sa-manga-dor-av-asbest/

Apparently, some people still die each year due to asbestos, but it primarily affects those in certain occupations. The difficult thing with asbestos is that it takes 20-30 years before it manifests, and it usually sneaks up with various difficulties. It can also be hard to diagnose, at least in early stages, so there's likely a hidden statistic.

My father lived on a farm when he was younger, where he sawed cement board directly on the ground without protection. Today he has limited lung capacity, which according to doctors is probably due to asbestos.

Of course, you shouldn't panic, especially as a home DIYer, but it's reasonable to handle asbestos with extra caution. You should avoid standing and sawing\breaking asbestos material, and if necessary, you should call someone who knows how to handle it. Otherwise, the risk is that it lingers throughout the entire house for a long time after that renovation.

I have windowsills with asbestos myself, and they need to be disposed of in a special container at the dump, and they should also be wrapped in plastic. Convinced they don't go to the trouble just for fun?
 
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Stl Stl said:
1) can have all the necessary licenses/permits to remove asbestos. 2) How do you know he didn't remove it in the best possible way? You can't sanitize away asbestos, it must be physically moved. 3) The times I've dealt with asbestos, the "dump" has been the place to leave the hazardous waste, in the case of asbestos wrapped in plastic.
1/ From what is in the original post, it feels very doubtful that he had a permit.
2/ In the industry I work in, the construction industry, it is usually called asbestos removal, but sure, asbestos demolition works too.
3/ So have you handled asbestos as a private person? Or do you have a permit? Not all waste facilities accept asbestos. It should be well packaged and labeled, preferably with the orange tape that is pre-printed. If you have taken it to the dump as a professional, you should also have a transport permit. If you do it as a private person, you are exempt from that detail.
 
As a craftsman, handling asbestos without a license at a client's place is not allowed. Dangerous or not, you are not permitted. As a private individual, you can handle asbestos on your own property, among other things. But a craftsman doing this without a license, and in an unprofessional manner, can be reported. Suppose you were to sustain injuries from this; then the craftsman could also be liable for bodily harm, provided it is reported. Eternit contains about 8-10% asbestos. Regardless, it should be handled as if it were blue asbestos.

As a former decontaminator, I would have treated the area as a contaminated zone and decontaminated it.

I have been on several jobs where it was declared decontaminated and no risk of asbestos, yet still showed amounts of fibers. One of them was a shopping center. Incompetence can be dangerous.
 
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Bananskalare Bananskalare said:
1000 people die every year. We are 10 million in Sweden. That's not particularly much... How many craftsmen die each year due to stone dust? without asbestos? How many die due to car exhaust every year?
Now we know how many died in 2016.
so we don't know how many died in 2021
But it's still a very low number that dies every year. That's different from working with asbestos.
So I still think asbestos is relatively harmless.
And if you look at how many in Sweden die from explosive substances every year, it's certainly far below 1000 per year. So explosive substances are also relatively harmless one could say. Lovely reasoning you have, all-knowing one! :)
 
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C Christer Törnros said:
Suddenly I remember why I left this forum a few years ago. I have more than 5 posts but far from 2000. The question is how many of your 2000 posts have any relevance whatsoever. That didn't contain pure nonsense like, what does it matter if 1000 people a year die from asbestos-related diseases when we have 10 million inhabitants. Absolutely astonishing!

There are so many convinced people here. They don't care what's right or wrong, it doesn't matter, as long as they have the conviction.
Are you surprised that people think differently and assess dangers and risks differently? It's natural behavior. It would be very surprising if everyone thought like you or me...
 
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But if you read the article above, isn't it still not 1100 people who have died? It was 173 who died from it in 2016 (which was de facto asbestos-related) and it is estimated that it's probably about five times more........
I call it scare tactics.
 
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