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Hello! As a recent graduate civil engineer, I'm trying to learn drafting techniques for my new job. Could someone explain/show how the surface marking looks for concrete in construction drawings? I get very confused as I see different surface markings for concrete all the time. I understand that it's mentioned in Bygghandlingar 90, but I can't afford to buy these books, and I also can't borrow them from the library since someone else already has.

How we learned the surface marking for concrete looks in school:
Illustration showing a construction drawing with a gray background and small triangles representing concrete surface texture.
Gray background with small triangles.

How it's stated in Bygghandlingar 90 (picture from an old lecture):
Illustration of material surface patterns for construction drawings, showing concrete, existing concrete, lightweight concrete, lightweight clinker, and brick.

Just a gray background


How the company makes its surface marking for concrete:
Diagram showing concrete surface hatching with a gray background and diagonal lines, used to illustrate different techniques in construction drawings.
Gray background with slanted lines.
It also states in Bygghandlingar 90 (check the picture above) that slanted lines are the surface marking for brick.

Everyone does it differently. It gets so confusing. Are there no rules about surface marking for building materials? Why does everyone draw differently then? Are they wrong, or am I just dumb and ignorant?

Feel free to correct me :D I want to learn! :)
 
From BH90.

Concrete types illustration from BH90 showing coarse, detailed, existing, grout, cast-in-place, and element concrete with patterns and labels in Swedish.
 
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Nice! Thanks! :D I guess I had an older version.

What is the difference between these different types of concrete then? Still quite confusing.
For example, I can understand that the one with only a gray background is cast-in-place and that the last one is prefab (correct me if I'm wrong). But what is the difference between the first and second image? What exactly is meant by existing concrete and
"(detail)" in the second image?

Why does the company draw slanted lines over a gray background on one of the images I uploaded? What is that supposed to symbolize?
 
I don't know the first and second, drawing existing concrete like the second one.

Dashed cast-in-place usually can mean waterproof concrete, but unclear why they have it on that detail above.
 
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Lulaua Lulaua said:
First and second I don't know, I draw existing concrete as the second.

Dashed cast-in-place usually can mean watertight concrete but unclear why they have it on the detail above.

Is what is stated in BH90 a requirement for how it must be drawn or is it just recommendations?
 
No, not requirements, but it can be good to follow to make yourself understood.

Most companies surely have their own design guidelines that you will learn when you start, so don't get fixated on learning everything according to BH90.
 
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ISO 128 should be the requirement. If one wants to follow it.

I believe ISO 128-23 is for construction.
 
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Lulaua Lulaua said:
No, not requirements but it can be good to follow to make yourself understood.

Most companies surely have their own design guidelines that you will learn once you start, so don't get fixated on having to learn everything according to BH90.
Aha okay, so companies can really draw however they want? So there are no requirements at all regarding how things should be drawn?
 
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Maxwells demon TotalControl said:
ISO 128 should be the requirement. If you want to follow it.

I believe ISO 128-23 is for construction.
Nice! So are they requirements or just recommendations like BH90?
Unfortunately, I have to pay if I want to check it out :(
 
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Nice! So is it a requirement or also just recommendations like BH90?
Unfortunately, I have to pay if I want to look at it :(
Should be a requirement in some certification. Never reflected on it since in my industry there's no question of not following standards. They are followed religiously.

In the woodwork industry, it seems to be more like the wild west ;)

Addition: Doesn't your university have an account for students? There's no way to purchase standards for tens of thousands of kronor.
 
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Maxwells demon TotalControl said:
Should be a requirement in any certification. Never reflected on it as in my industry there's no question about not following standards. They're followed religiously.

In the carpentry industry, it seems more like the wild west ;)

Addition: Doesn't your university have an account for students? Can't imagine buying standards for tens of thousands of crowns.
Unfortunately, we didn't get a student account haha. We only got the image I sent above and maybe some hand-drawn pictures from the lecturer. Quite lousy. On the other hand, I'm no longer a student since I graduated this spring. Is it ISO 128 or BH90 that you follow religiously?
 
I don't work in construction. We have our own standards that refer to ISO, EN, DIN, etc., with additions where there are gaps and improvements where the above-mentioned have deficiencies.

But consider it a requirement if you want to be serious. It's the "language" you have to use. You would never think of using your own units of measurement rather than SI.
 
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Maxwells demon TotalControl said:
Not working in construction. We have our own standards that refer to ISO, EN, DIN etc., with additions where there are gaps and improvements where the above-mentioned fall short.

But see it as a requirement if you want to be serious. It's the "language" you have to use. One would never consider using units other than SI.

It seems like many companies and universities completely disregard these "requirements/rules" and draw exactly how they want. It creates a lot of confusion haha.
 
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