I am interested in practical, self-experienced, and long-term experiences of how exposed masonite withstands weather and wind in an exterior wall.

I am currently sketching an exterior wall construction where masonite along with sawdust is part of the facade. The function of the masonite is to keep the loose insulation in place and to stop the wind.

I am also interested in hearing your thoughts on the differences between the various masonite boards. Thickness, hardness, and treatment?

I am also interested in hearing your thoughts on installing the boards. Soaking and fastening?

I am also interested in hearing your thoughts on any self-treatment of the boards. Oil, tar, and paint?

Very grateful for answers.
 
Outer wall, it's called "fattigmanspanel." It can buckle and crumble at the bottom edge but has fairly good durability if you buy good quality. But why?
 
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R Rodgar Den Frie said:
I am interested in practical, firsthand, and long-term experiences of how exposed hardboard withstands weather and wind on an outer wall.

I am currently sketching an outer wall construction where hardboard, along with sawdust bales, is part of the outer facade. The function of the hardboard is to keep the loose insulation in place and to stop the wind.
What does your intended structure look like? Please describe how you envision it from the inside out…
 
Jonatan79 Jonatan79 said:
Outer wall, it's called poor man's paneling. It can buckle and crumble at the bottom edge but has quite good durability if you buy good quality. But why?
Thanks

Low investment of the currency Money!

Low investment of the currency Labor!
 
Rejäl said:
How does your intended frame look? Please describe how you're thinking from the inside out…
Standing saw logs as tightly as possible
Heavy duty paper
Wood shavings
45 x 220: sill, standing cc 120, wall plate
45 x 45: 2 pieces of nogging in the compartments cc 80
Masonite
Standing saw logs as tightly as possible

Please describe how you're thinking…
 
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Standing sawbucks as close together as possible
Heavy cardboard
Wood shavings
45 x 220: base plate, standing cc 120, top plate
45 x 45: 2 noggings in the bays cc 80
Masonite
Standing sawbucks as close together as possible

Feel free to describe how you think…
Oh this is a wall method that I have no knowledge of 😊
 
If you paint and maintain the facade like any other facade, it will last a long time. A friend of mine replaced their facade a few years ago, not because there was anything wrong with the masonite from '54, but to add insulation. The facade was well maintained by the previous owner who built the house.

Worth noting, it's the back/rough side of the masonite that should be facing out and that you should paint on, not the smooth side, as paint adheres poorly for outdoor use there.
 
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Rejäl said:
Oh, this is a vögg method where I have no knowledge
Rejäl said:
Oh, this is a vögg method where I have no knowledge 😊
I am working on constructing the cheapest possible exterior wall
Minimize:
Types of materials, materials, labor input, and the currency Money

Maximize:
The indoor climate, durability, functionality, and beauty
 
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Minimize:
Material type, material, labor input, and currency Money

Maximize:
Indoor climate, sustainability, function, and beauty
Ok, following with excitement, would be fun to see pictures when this is realized😊
 
Isakare Isakare said:
If you paint and maintain the facade like any other facade, it will last a long time. A friend of mine replaced the facade a few years ago, not because there was anything wrong with the masonite from '54, but to add insulation. The facade was well maintained by the previous owner who built the house.

Worth noting, it is the back side/the rough side of the masonite that should face outwards and be painted on, not the smooth side, as paint adheres poorly for outdoor use.
Thank you very much. Very interesting response. I am interested in how the external facade was constructed. Do you have the opportunity to describe or show with a photo?
 
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Rejäl said:
Ok, following with excitement, it would be fun to see pictures when this is realized😊
Thank you for your positive energy It continues to inspire me
 
R Rodgar Den Frie said:
Thank you for your positive energy 🙂 It continues to inspire me
Don't do it, it's not a good idea. There's a reason why they don't use masonite much anymore.
 
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R Rodgar Den Frie said:
Standing sawbucks as close as possible
Strong cardboard
Wood shavings
45 x 220: sill, standing cc 120, wall plate
45 x 45: 2 noggins in the compartments cc 80
Masonite
Standing sawbucks as close as possible

Feel free to describe how you're thinking...
How high will the house be and is it for permanent residence? I see a problem if you have horizontal joints between the boards if the facade exceeds 250cm in height.
 
R Rodgar Den Frie said:
Thank you very much. Very interesting answer. I am interested in how the exterior facade was constructed. Do you have the opportunity to describe or show with a photo?
No, I don't have anything like that.
But many of the so-called Egnahemshusen in the 40s and 50s had masonite facades.
For example, Mockfjärds Elementhus had ready-made wall elements, masonite glued and nailed on both sides of a thin framework filled with wood shavings.
Inward was the smooth side that was wallpapered, outward the rough side which was clad with battens, painted and ready it looked like any wooden facade.

But those walls were very thin and do not meet today's standards.
 
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Is probably quite easy to install battens and real paneling if it turns out not to work well after a few years.
 
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