Stair tips

[IceBall]

Hello!
We need to do something about this staircase in our future home!
see pictures http://www.extendit.biz/trapp2.jpg and http://www.extendit.biz/trapp1.jpg

The staircase is narrow, has small steps, and extends a bit too far into the living room.
The wall that you see the staircase against can be moved if needed.

My wishes are to make the staircase look nicer, not extend so far into the living room, and not be too expensive. Maybe build it ourselves from a design or order it and assemble it ourselves.

Any tips, suggestions?

/IceBall

 

[Immobil]

Any tips, suggestions?

An L-shaped staircase could probably improve things a bit. It would be good to have a drawing of the ground floor with the floor opening drawn in. Is it possible to arrange ????

-Ankan-: You are absolutely right regarding the deeper steps. We call it step depth.

 

[IceBall]

Hello everyone!

Behind the movable wall is the kitchen, and I don't plan to have any kitchen cabinets or anything there.

I've also considered having a curved or spiral staircase but haven't found many such ready-made stairs online. I believe it would be very expensive to custom order a curved staircase as well...

I found an image in an interior design magazine that gave me an idea (which may not be feasible with a reasonable budget). I thought of finding a company that could weld a beam with mounts for the steps, and maybe you could get it a bit curved. See the image http://www.extendit.biz/trapp4.gif. Then I'd build the steps myself. I'm a bit handy, at least.

immobil: I'll try to get the drawing on Thursday, then I can post a picture for you to see...

Thanks for the tips!

/IceBall

 

[yonna]

If you have small children, that staircase picture is definitely dangerous - both in terms of the steps and the handrail. Check what the additional cost is regarding a special order - it might not necessarily be that much more expensive!

 

[JanneH]

Found an image in an interior design magazine that gave me an idea (which might not be feasible at a reasonable cost). Was thinking of finding a company that could weld a beam with mounts for steps and maybe get it a little curved. See image [link]. Then you could craft your own steps. I'm somewhat handy myself anyway.

I've been thinking about the same thing and about the same staircase . My consideration is the steps; what type of wood is it, because I assume thicker countertops wouldn't work because of the weight, right? Or are sturdy step mounts the important thing?

Janne

 

[Immobil]

http://www.extendit.biz/trapp4.gif

The staircase in the picture is a so-called Deltatrappa. It appears to have oiled oak steps. They should be at least 40 mm thick.

 

[JanneH]

The staircase in the picture is a so-called Deltatrappa. It looks like oiled oak steps. They should be at least 40 mm thick.

So it actually works with regular countertop slabs of that thickness?

Say it involves 14 steps, and you can get two steps per meter of countertop and the countertop costs 3000 SEK per meter, then we would end up at 21000 SEK for the steps. Am I thinking correctly, Immobil, since you're not only a forum god but also a staircase god ;D? Is this the cheapest way?

Janne

 

[MrMagic]

Do not buy countertops, buy regular lumber instead. For the money you mentioned above, you can get both a table saw and a planer/thicknesser to do the job afterwards. I have made a 3.06 m high staircase with 45 mm steps, 300 mm step depth, and a 1x1.4 m platform at the top as well as handrails. All in solid maple, costing about 6500:- for the wood. Then there's the cost of labor, oil, varnish, etc. The side pieces are made of steel and not included in the price above.

 

[JanneH]

That's exactly what one wants to hear, finally something that's cheaper than expected .

That sounds great. A dumb question perhaps, but where do you buy such timber, is it sawmills that are suitable or do regular hardware stores work?

Could you show a picture of your staircase?

Janne

 

[MrMagic]

Bought the lumber from a door manufacturer/wholesaler. But your local dealer can also arrange it. Pricing is usually per m3 of lumber, in my case it was about 0.4 m3.
If you buy unedged, meaning not sawn on the sides, the price is lower, but you'll have more waste.
Going to install it tomorrow, can take a couple of pictures then...
By the way, the staircase has 16 steps + the platform, i.e. 180mm step height.

 

[Immobil]

Am I right Immobil, since you are not only a forum god but also a stair god ;D? Is this the cheapest way?

:-[ Sorry for my late arrival. As you can see from Mr Magic's post, it's possible to get away cheaper. 8) Conclusion: Expensive countertops should not be used to make steps.

: I can also add that maple and oak are at the same price level, i.e., 80% more expensive than pine.

8) Finally, I want to humbly thank you for the compliment. :-[ ;D

 

[kalleanka70]

........... I found a picture in an interior design magazine that gave me an idea (which might not be feasible at a reasonable cost). I thought one could find a company that could weld a beam with mounts for steps and maybe have it a little curved. see picture [link]. /IceBall

We recognize that... the latest issue of Plaza Interiör about a new build in Karlstad, right? Plaza usually helps with suppliers, just give them a call.

 

[JanneH]

Thanks for the tips and info.

Janne

 

[IceBall]

Sounds good Calle Anka! I found it in Plaza magazine. It was some high school students who had welded together the staircase.
I've gone around and shown the stairs to some welding places in town and they will take anywhere from 25,000 - 35,000 SEK to weld a similar one and then I'll do the stairstones myself! Feels expensive, I think....

Have another idea: http://www.snickarlaget.se/ has nice stairs. Click on "nya trappor" and "Balk" for example.
See pictures from there: http://www.snickarlaget.se/nyatrappor/balk6.jpg http://www.snickarlaget.se/nyatrappor/balk2.jpg

Couldn't you put together one like that yourself with a glulam or something?

/IceBall

 

[MrMagic]

Here are finally a couple of pictures....