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TRJBerg TRJBerg said:
It's obvious that your/woman/women have not felt so good that they had to scream.
No, it's not obvious at all. But she has control over her behavior when needed. It has been an asset when there have been other people around. It's clear that you and TS miss such moments. 😉
 
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spikplanka spikplanka said:
Like this?
Drywall
Drywall
Gullfiber
Construction plastic
Air gap
Construction plastic
Gullfiber
Drywall
Drywall

Thickness of the materials?
You can skip the construction plastic. Then the part with the studs he mentioned is an important part of it.
 
spikplanka spikplanka said:
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Gypsum board
Gypsum board
Gullfiber
Construction plastic
Air gap
Construction plastic
Gullfiber
Gypsum board
Gypsum board

Thickness of the materials?
Wouldn't use 2 layers of construction plastic
 
How do you soundproof a bathroom? Is it enough to just change the door?
 
P Peter_Ker said:
How do you soundproof a toilet? Is it enough to change the door?
"depends" but yes probably a tight door is enough
 
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spikplanka spikplanka said:
Det verkar kontraintuitivt att fler densitetsvariationer (luft-vs-mineralull osv) skulle försÀmra dÀmpningen. Enda nackdelen torde vara storlek och materialÄtgÄng.

Heterogena material Àr frÄn erfarenheterna nÀr jag fick tips av akustikdoktoranden. Det slÄr sönder ljudvÄgorna.

Det finns gott om knepiga personer i maktposition. Och det finns en hel del folk som skall styra upp nÀr nÄgon annan agerar utanför deras uppstÀllda normer.
DÄ Àr det deras problem inte ts. Knepiga mÀnniskor finns det gott om men vad har de med deras sexliv att göra.
 
4774 4774 said:
Then it's their problem, not ts.
The problem arises when they have power.
 
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spikplanka spikplanka said:
The problem arises when they have power.
Which court would convict a married couple for having sex?
 
4774 4774 said:
Which court would convict a married couple for having sex?
Social services committees that can make decisions outside the judicial system, and it's about them being able to act against people they consider to be outside their own norms. Even if you ultimately get justice, many tears may have been shed in the process.
 
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spikplanka spikplanka said:
The social services committees that can make decisions outside the court system, and it involves them acting against people they consider to be outside their own norms. Even if you are proven right in the end, many tears may have been shed in the process.
I agree with that, but I find it hard to see it happening for this reason. How do you mean that parents could have sex at all if they have to walk around being afraid that social services will come and take the children?
 
4774 4774 said:
I agree with that, but I find it hard to see that this would happen for this reason. How do you mean that parents could have sex at all if they have to go around being afraid that social services will come and take the children?
The problem is that those making the decisions might not have children. Or have never had sex. And therefore lack understanding.

Those of us who are parents have had sex and probably enjoy it. Those of us who have several children have had to learn how to have sex even though a baby is sleeping in the same room. Or to send older children off to play with friends and have sex in the middle of the day.
 
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4774 4774 said:
How do you mean that parents would be able to have sex at all if you have to walk around being afraid that social services will come and take the children?
Do not involve the children in the sex life in any way. Then they cannot let it slip. Also, keep the public out of everything that is private without exception.
 
H Harald BlÄtumme said:
There is also the option to go away for a while with the car, epa tractor, camper van, etc., to a place where no one is disturbed. This is also a classic.

Just trying to think a little outside the box here.

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PS. If supervising the children is important during the sessions, it needs to be arranged whether the TS is in an isolated space in the home or, for example, in a camper van outside the home.
Reply to P.S. - the children always sleep from 8 PM, but occasionally they have woken up. We have an outdoor camera that sends notifications if someone goes out/opens the front door. Having soundproofing is not the same as being completely disconnected.
H Harald BlÄtumme said:
But if the kids are to be shielded from the parents' activities, there are two options.

1) Create a "dungeon" for example in the basement, shielded & soundproofed. Perhaps whoever wants to get attention could ring a doorbell? Haven't tested or needed that doorbell option.

2) Go a bit away with the car, etc., vehicle to undisturbed places. Haven't tested or needed this either, but sure it could work.

What works depends on the children's age, whether supervision is needed or not when the parents are busy with their things. No big deal. Be a little creative and it will sort itself out.
Yes, we are creative today and for those who think otherwise - YES, we can be quiet. The children come first for us, but one must also be a human and an individual with one's own desires even if one is a parent. I was just exploring how difficult it is with other solutions and what other solutions exist. I notice that the question and my pondering have stirred some emotions in people. I truly appreciate all the good answers I've received!
 
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What you notice when you dig deeper into arranging complete soundproofing is that it's not just about having heavy double/triple plasterboards on the walls, sensible beams against frames, etc. - there's plenty to read about how to set up a good sound studio, as mentioned.

It's also about ensuring that all electrical boxes are sealed so no sound is transmitted through the electrical conduits (surprisingly much sound can be forwarded through these), then making sure there is a heavy sound-rated door with proper sealing around so there are no gaps. Equally important is arranging sound-damped airflow so you have decent ventilation, as it should pull air from, for example, bedrooms at a reasonable pace but soundproofed.

I haven't had any reason to go all the way with this, but there are certainly people who want to, not just for the original purpose of the thread but to soundproof, for example, a rehearsal space or a sound studio. Or maybe to get some ideas on how to make a centrally located bathroom quite soundproof :-)
 
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Just leaky walls can cause issues...
Built an apartment dividing wall according to all the rules, meaning 2 independent walls with staggered studs, insulation, sealed both OSB and gypsum.
Yet a tenant complained that it was noisy from the neighbor on the same floor, especially in the bathroom.

Thought long and hard before realizing I left a 20*20cm hole in the wall for a vacuum valve.
The hole was behind a shoe shelf and 2m above, so the ventilation from the bathroom went in, screwed the hole shut and sealed it, and never heard anything more about them being disturbed.
 
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