Applied about 2cm of Kiilto fiber-reinforced self-leveling compound over the water loops in the bathroom yesterday. (20 bags at 20kg each at 219kr each) :blushing:
Need to apply an additional 3-4cm of self-leveling compound before everything is finished.
It can't be wrong to switch brands for the rest of the self-leveling compound I'm going to apply if what's already there gets a few days to dry out, right?
Byggmax charges 169kr/25kg, which is significantly cheaper...
Need to apply an additional 3-4cm of self-leveling compound before everything is finished.
It can't be wrong to switch brands for the rest of the self-leveling compound I'm going to apply if what's already there gets a few days to dry out, right?
Byggmax charges 169kr/25kg, which is significantly cheaper...
I have used byggmax self-leveling compound once at work and there were big hard lumps in it (chance) and a lot of restrictions on how you could and could not do things. Otherwise, I use LIP's self-leveling compound which is absolutely phenomenal. Quite expensive, I think though...
It costs a couple of hundred per bag I believe, but it's good to work with and you usually get what you pay for...lajsiiwan said:
In the end, you rarely save that many bucks by choosing some cheap odd brand, in my opinion.
I always use LIP's in wet areas and sometimes buy some cheap stuff if it's just for filling somewhere where it matters less.
LIP's products have long been available for purchase on sigro.se. When I compared them several years ago, these prices were really good compared to what an individual can buy in a regular store. How it is now, I'm not quite sure. Additionally, it's convenient to have a pallet delivered to the front door for a few hundred...
I have tried various brands of self-leveling compound and I like Mapei's affordable self-leveling compound sold at Hornbach. It may not be quick-drying, but I've only used it in the basement where the drying process is of secondary importance. If you plan to apply a waterproofing layer within a day, that's a different story. However, if you have the time to wait for a slow-drying compound, you save a lot by choosing a slower one.
K-rauta sells Maxit's 4310 Fibre Flow for 139 SEK per bag (25 kilos). Also slow-drying. I also like that compound.
However, I'm not too fond of Maxit's adhesive. Too gritty. In that area, Mapei's products are light-years better—as are PCI and Sopro. If you're on a tight budget, I also think that Hornbach sells a decent Mapei adhesive. Nothing extravagant, but good price/performance.
K-rauta sells Maxit's 4310 Fibre Flow for 139 SEK per bag (25 kilos). Also slow-drying. I also like that compound.
However, I'm not too fond of Maxit's adhesive. Too gritty. In that area, Mapei's products are light-years better—as are PCI and Sopro. If you're on a tight budget, I also think that Hornbach sells a decent Mapei adhesive. Nothing extravagant, but good price/performance.
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What you often need to consider is that if different warranties are to apply, it's important to use the same brand throughout the construction...
So, you shouldn't prime the floor with Höganäs primer and then level with Mapei's self-leveling compound, followed by waterproofing with Lip's VS30, and using Casco's sealing corners and strips...
Maybe it was a bit exaggerated, but I think you get the point... ;-)
So, you shouldn't prime the floor with Höganäs primer and then level with Mapei's self-leveling compound, followed by waterproofing with Lip's VS30, and using Casco's sealing corners and strips...
Maybe it was a bit exaggerated, but I think you get the point... ;-)
Waterproofing systems and adhesive should be from the same manufacturer. However, the choice of self-leveling compound is free!
I'm unsure about the process of leveling a floor, but I assume you prime the floor and level it with products from the same manufacturer. However, it doesn't necessarily have to be the same self-leveling compound as the underlying one.
I'm unsure about the process of leveling a floor, but I assume you prime the floor and level it with products from the same manufacturer. However, it doesn't necessarily have to be the same self-leveling compound as the underlying one.
lajsiiwan: Elaborate on "as known, no guarantees." I might be a bit slow, but which guarantees do you mean?
Suppose I first self-leveled with LIP. It didn’t turn out well for some reason... maybe a little uneven. I then buy Maxit’s primer and self-leveling compound and apply a new layer. Where is the problem? Wouldn’t Maxit’s stuff hold? Would LIP claim that their products can’t handle a new layer on top of theirs?
I believe – without knowing – that in many buildings there’s already a layer of self-leveling compound where one simply doesn’t KNOW which brand it is. Then you self-level with a brand that might be the same, but just as likely is a different brand.
An example could be a large office being built. Each floor is self-leveled with a pump truck. The brand might be Maxit. Then the bathrooms are contracted out. A tiling company uses PCI self-leveling compound to build slopes in all shower areas. Is the scenario impossible or unreasonable? Are there any "guarantees" that cease to apply?
A final question: Are my assumptions completely wrong? I’m just a self-taught handyman...
Suppose I first self-leveled with LIP. It didn’t turn out well for some reason... maybe a little uneven. I then buy Maxit’s primer and self-leveling compound and apply a new layer. Where is the problem? Wouldn’t Maxit’s stuff hold? Would LIP claim that their products can’t handle a new layer on top of theirs?
I believe – without knowing – that in many buildings there’s already a layer of self-leveling compound where one simply doesn’t KNOW which brand it is. Then you self-level with a brand that might be the same, but just as likely is a different brand.
An example could be a large office being built. Each floor is self-leveled with a pump truck. The brand might be Maxit. Then the bathrooms are contracted out. A tiling company uses PCI self-leveling compound to build slopes in all shower areas. Is the scenario impossible or unreasonable? Are there any "guarantees" that cease to apply?
A final question: Are my assumptions completely wrong? I’m just a self-taught handyman...
Fasting65 naturally has a point, but the most important thing is not to mix different brands in the same floor. For example, Maxit in Swedish packaging and imported, both "self-leveling compound," can apparently clash significantly. One had extended one type with the other. Sounds silly, but human ingenuity knows no bounds.
Regarding prices, they are, as you know, always lower on the other side of the border. If you decide on a DIY project, you can advantageously stock up on one or more pallets of self-leveling compound of any brand.
Regarding prices, they are, as you know, always lower on the other side of the border. If you decide on a DIY project, you can advantageously stock up on one or more pallets of self-leveling compound of any brand.
You can do whatever you want, but I call it stupidity...
Personally, I never mix anything in a wet area with different things from different suppliers anyway...
Regardless of wet or dry conditions.
I know that most suppliers won't back you up if a problem arises and it turns out that you've mixed in another brand in the middle of everything.
But as I said... do as you wish... it's probably better... :S
Personally, I never mix anything in a wet area with different things from different suppliers anyway...
Regardless of wet or dry conditions.
I know that most suppliers won't back you up if a problem arises and it turns out that you've mixed in another brand in the middle of everything.
But as I said... do as you wish... it's probably better... :S