Hello, I have a barn where I want to build an insulated room for storing paint, a laundry room, etc.

The problem is that there are currently four steel posts supporting a wooden beam exactly where I want to build the wall.
My idea was to replace all the posts with screw-laminated 45x145 at cc 60 and place noggins between each bay so that I can insulate and put up boards. Do you think that would be enough to replace the posts? The length is about 8 meters so it would be 10-12 screw-laminated studs as a replacement for 4 posts. (is that what they're called?)

The beam that is stamped has a number of cross-beams above it, and unfortunately, I can't see if they extend the entire width of the building or if they're jointed.

On the other side, there is another beam with the same construction, which will remain.

In the loft above, there's currently nothing heavy. Previously, they used it for storing hay, and in the future, we plan to use it as a party venue, so nothing heavier will be stored there.

Or should I just take the quick, easy route and build the wall around the posts?

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Eccoes Eccoes said:
Hi, I have a barn where I want to build an insulated room to store paint, have a utility room and more.

The problem is that there are currently four steel props against a wooden beam right where I want to build the wall. My idea was to replace all the props with screw-laminated 45x145 on cc 60 and put noggins between each compartment to then be able to insulate and put up boards, do you think that will be enough to replace the props? The length is about 8 meters so it will be 10-12 screw-laminated studs to replace 4 props. (is that what it's called?)

The beam that is supported by the props in turn has a number of cross beams above it and unfortunately I can't see if they extend the entire width of the building or if they are spliced.

On the other side, there is another beam with the same construction, it will remain.

In the loft above, there is currently nothing heavy, previously they stored hay and in the future, we plan to use it as an event space so nothing heavier will be stored there.

Or should I just take the quick, easy route and build the props into the wall?

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You're lucky to have the columns where you want the wall. Let them stay and build them into the wall.
 
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S Simsonsson said:
You're lucky to have the pillars where you want the wall. Let them stay and build them into the wall.
Yes, that's the quick solution, but it also means that it won't be possible to maintain cc60, so there's a bit more work with the insulation, but definitely the easiest option!
 
Build them in. You can build with something like 45x95 and then a horizontal 45 on each side with insulation.
 
I notice that you mention you're not planning to have anything heavy up there but that it will become a party venue, I think the loads could be quite significant when people dance in rhythm. But otherwise, I agree with the others, incorporate what's already there. Adjusting insulation can be done quickly.
 
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Then they will have to be built-in. I'm a bit unsure about the diameter of the stämpen, but using 45x95 might work. In the worst case, I'll use 45x145 so I can screw the plywood against the beam in the ceiling as well, making it built-in from one side.

Many thanks for your responses.
 
You can still use cc60, and it will only be in certain sections where the support lands that you need to adjust.
 
O olofh said:
You can still use cc60, so it will only be in certain sections where the stamp lands that you need to adjust
Yes, exactly, it's not a problem to adjust the few sections that don't end up as cc60 and it's not critical for the insulation to be perfect!
 
A party venue is probably among the heaviest uses one can imagine. There are two methods to calculate if you want to replace the steel poles. Enclosing them is certainly easier. Either you perform a complete calculation based on the existing structure (except the pipes) and the intended load or you calculate backwards considering the poles' dimensions and replace them with something equivalent.
 
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As mentioned, there are also 7 transverse beams, so I'm not particularly worried that it won't hold. And when we say party venue, we're talking about maybe 10 people, and we're getting to the age where there's not much dancing.

It's almost certainly the full length of the beams, with no joints, since the front is timbered with whole logs all the way.
 
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A little update then.
Used materials I already had at home instead of spending money on buying new ones, so it became 145x45 at the bottom and two 95x45 in a "T" as studs.

Wood-framed structure under construction in a workshop, with various tools and materials scattered on the floor. Renovation project showing partially constructed wooden wall with visible framing, using repurposed materials, and a mitre saw on the ground.
 
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