Planning an expansion and thought I'd keep it simple, I've checked out http://www.caboden.se/pdf/mariefred_fasader_37.pdf
however, it's a bit too small, I want to be able to have a bedroom with low ceilings upstairs instead
of just a sleeping loft.
Do you think it’s possible to raise the wall height yourself... should be doable before you
put up the roof trusses, make a height increase of 60 cm? (might be enough)
however, it's a bit too small, I want to be able to have a bedroom with low ceilings upstairs instead
of just a sleeping loft.
Do you think it’s possible to raise the wall height yourself... should be doable before you
put up the roof trusses, make a height increase of 60 cm? (might be enough)
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It probably requires a completely different truss. Otherwise, you will have a beam about 60 cm high to jump over every 1.2 meters on the upper floor. You need someone to redesign the house, probably not a big deal. Truss factories routinely make such constructions and often as part of the price for the truss. It is also probably not suitable to just build up 60 cm; the walls should ideally be built to that height from the start to achieve the proper strength. With a raised wall base, you (I believe) get an outward bending force on the part of the wall that protrudes. That force comes from the truss.
Yes, that's what I would have wanted, but the ca-boden can't manufacture with raised wall life.hempularen said:
I can accept that a stronger frame will be needed on the "upper floor" and it can extend 20 cm onto the floor.
Since the cabin itself is so small, maybe there won't be such large loads?
I have no idea how to do it otherwise, according to quotes from custom builders, the whole thing would cost about 150,000 SEK if they do it. ca-boden charges from 70,000 SEK
so if I would then spend 30,000 on wall life/trusses, it would be from 100,000 SEK...
Can't you just insulate the roof and furnish the attic, so you have a sleeping loft there, albeit with a slightly low ceiling? Cover the sides, and then you get crawl spaces, so it looks like there is increased wall height from the inside.swecul said:Well, I would have hoped so, but ca-boden can't manufacture with increased wall height.
I can accept that you will need a sturdier frame on the "upper floor" and it can extend 20 cm onto the floor.
Since the cabin itself is so small, maybe the loads won't be that significant?
I have no idea how else to do it, according to quotes from on-site builders,
the whole thing would cost about 150,000 kr if they do it. ca-boden charges from 70,000 kr
so if I then spend 30,000 on wall height/roof trusses, it would be from 100 thousand...
swecul said:Well, that's what I wished for, but ca-boden can't manufacture with elevated wall height.
I can accept that you'll need a stronger frame on the "upper floor" and it can go 20 cm onto the floor.
Since the cabin itself is so small, perhaps the loads won’t be that large?
I have no idea how else to do it, according to quotes from custom builders,
the ceremony would cost about 150,000 kr if they do it. ca-boden starts from 70,000 kr
so if I were to spend 30,000 on wall height / rafters, it would be from 100 grand...
Can't you just insulate the ceiling and furnish the attic, then you’ll have a sleeping loft albeit with a somewhat low ceiling? Cover the sides and you'll have knee walls, making it look like elevated wall height from the inside.
yes but then I will get a loft just like you said... and I don't want that, we are only allowed to build 80 sqm so if some of them can be in a 1 ½ plan I am grateful for every extra sqm I can acquire. that's why I want raised wall life...
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What does the detailed plan (or why you can only build 80 sqm) say about the building height then?
From your size limitation, I guess it's a holiday home area? They often have strict rules that prohibit anything except single-story buildings.
Might be worth checking before you invest too much effort in redesigning the cabin.
From your size limitation, I guess it's a holiday home area? They often have strict rules that prohibit anything except single-story buildings.
Might be worth checking before you invest too much effort in redesigning the cabin.
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You might have similar regulations to our area where we're building a summer house; Max 80+20, 3.5m knee walls, and 30-degree roof angle...swecul said:
I've ordered an Onsala from CABoden. Unfortunately, the 30-degree roof means we can't get a good loft either
I considered the idea of raised knee walls after a tip from the officer — the issue is that it doesn't work with CABoden.
I've thought about building a guest cabin with a slightly unusual floor plan and a loft in half the cabin, then in loose timber. I would then either build with pre-ordered trusses without a "cross-bar," or with a glued laminated beam at the ridge (the guest house will only be 6x3 m, so a glued laminated beam at the ridge should suffice).
Modifying a CABoden so much won't be cheap unfortunately — it's better to order loose timber or loose wall modules from, for example, lunqusit trä (they sell per "linear meter"), and build the roof with something else, loose timber or pre-ordered...
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