Hello!
New homeowner and completely new to the construction area. However, I have plenty of ideas and I now need help with tips on how I can make this happen.
We have an existing fence with one of the neighbors that isn't the most attractive. We have a pergola (deck?) that we're going to complement with a sun deck this summer, and right next to it, the neighbor has a shed. Behind the shed (towards our yard), the neighbor has ladders and other stuff that you want to hide. It's just that what the neighbor hides becomes the view from our patio. The fence goes around the whole yard and replacing it is not an option at the moment. What do I want to do then? Well, I would like to extend the posts (iron, steel?) So that they become maybe 2 meters high? The idea is to then put up boards all the way and let plants climb to create a green wall and possibly even let them grow into an archway into the pergola.
Is there a smarter solution? Is it feasible? How do I do it and what do I need to accomplish it? Any tips are gratefully received!
If you build a fence, you need a building permit. A trellis or similar transparent structure can be built without a building permit. To be safe, check with the municipality, as interpretations can vary slightly between municipalities.
An alternative would have been to raise the posts and place reinforcement mesh between the posts. Can look nice, is easy to do, works well as a climbing wall for the plants.
A fence can often be erected without a building permit in many municipalities, provided it has 50% visibility and is not higher than 1.8 meters. This means that if it is covered with 120 mm wide boards, there should be 120 mm gaps between each board. Since it is within 4.5 meters from the property line, the neighbor's consent is of course needed. But the rules may vary between municipalities, just as @hempularen has already pointed out. Which municipality does this apply to?
A commonly occurring "trick" is to agree with the neighbor to erect a fence in the middle of the property line but to do it with "50% visibility" on each side. This means that the boards on each side overlap and become completely solid when viewed straight on. Not entirely allowed, but easy to downgrade to 50% visibility by removing the boards on one side. See illustration:
One alternative would have been to raise the posts and put rebar mesh between the posts. It can look nice, is easy to do, works well as a climbing wall for the plants.
It's not a completely bad idea. But how do I extend them? Do you buy extra, insert them, and attach them with the bolts available? How do I attach the rebar mesh?
A fence can often be erected without a building permit in many municipalities, provided it has 50% visibility and is not higher than 1.8 meters. That is to say, if it is clad with 120 mm wide boards, there should be a 120 mm gap between each board. Since it is within 4.5 meters from the property line, the neighbor's consent is, of course, needed. But rules can vary between municipalities, just as @hempularen already pointed out. Which municipality does this apply to?
A common "trick" is to agree with the neighbor to erect a fence right on the property line but to do it with "50% visibility" on each side. That is, so the boards on each side overlap and become completely solid when viewed straight on. Not entirely allowed, but easy to downgrade to 50% visibility by removing the boards from one side. See illustration:
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Oh, so clever, though. Easy to fix if there should be an issue. On the other hand, I would like to cover it with plants, so it doesn’t need to be completely solid either. Now, I don't know exactly how much it applies, but the fence is already on our property, as well as their shed. I believe it’s maybe 3 meters from the property line, so it still isn’t enough unfortunately. Don’t ask me why they did it this way, I have no idea. We live in älvkarleby municipality.
I understand that the rules exist, but it's strange that a shed can be there but not a fence/screen at 2 meters = lower than the shed.
If you are building a fence, you need a building permit. A trellis or similar transparent structure can be built without a permit. To be sure, check with the municipality, interpretations vary slightly between municipalities.
I hadn't even thought about that since there's already a shed there. Good to know!
It might be good to know whose fence it is first. Since the "good side" is facing the neighbor, it suggests it belongs to TS, but it could just as easily be co-owned; it has to face one way or the other. It's less likely to belong to the neighbor, but not impossible.
It might be possible to extend something onto it, but one might wonder how nice it will look, as well as how stable it will be.
Personally, I think a lilac would fit there, while someone else might suggest a thuja. Both grow quite fast and can manage without support. So, also consider what type of vegetation you want there before you start building something.
It might be good to know whose fence it is first. Since the “good side” is facing the neighbor, it suggests it belongs to TS, but it could just as easily be co-owned. It's less likely to belong to the neighbor, but not impossible.
It might be possible to splice something onto it, but how good it will look is questionable, as well as how stable it will be.
Personally, I think lilac would fit there, someone else might suggest a thuja. Both grow quite fast and can manage without support. So consider what type of vegetation you want there before you start building anything.
Exactly. I might need to read up a bit on lilacs. I'm a bit worried about our extremely fine peonies that are in the middle. Lilacs take over quite easily as I understand it. My idea was to get climbing plants that can cover it like a wall and then continue into the pergola itself as a plant portal.
I understand, but do you really mean that the retaining wall and fence are located several meters inside your property in what seems to be a relatively densely built-up area? Honestly, that sounds quite unlikely. Is it based on actual boundary markers in the ground, a property map, or something more imprecise, like how the boundaries are shown on, for example, hitta.se?
Of course, it could be as you write, but it would be unusual.
I understand, but do you really mean that the retaining wall and fence are several meters into your property in what seems to be a relatively densely built area? That honestly sounds quite unlikely. Is it based on actual boundary markers in the ground, a property map, or something more imprecise, like how the boundaries are displayed on, for example, hitta.se?
It might be as you write, but that would be unusual.
Yes, I haven't talked to the neighbor since it seemed a bit fleeting and avoided my tame attempt. BUT the realtor mentioned this at the purchase (I thought it was about a much smaller part than it actually is) and so we checked the property map at lantmäteriet. I will try to find out more facts about why. You do get a bit curious!
The plot map is often incorrect, it can differ by several meters. Especially if the boundaries have not been determined in modern times. What is legally valid are the actual boundary markers. These may be stumps of steel pipes that the land survey office placed down once upon a time.
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