Hello!

We have just renovated our bathroom in our apartment. Before the renovation began, the contractor advised us to cover everything with textiles (sheets, towels) instead of plastic, as this captures all the dust better. They then set up plastic barriers so there was only a straight path from the front door to the bathroom.

When we returned, it was, of course, dusty and dirty in almost the entire home (the apartment is 38 sqm), so we wiped the ceilings, walls, and cleaned all the furniture and surfaces. After that, we have wiped the floors about 4 times.

Now it still nags at me that we might have should have taken in a cleaning company for the job since this dust does not seem to be the healthiest. Somehow, I have the feeling that the dust remains no matter how much we clean and that we are exposing ourselves to this unhealthy dust for no reason.

Is my concern justified or am I overthinking?
 
E exos said:
Hello!

We have just renovated our bathroom in our apartment. Before the renovation began, the contractor suggested covering everything with textiles (sheets, towels) instead of plastic as this captures all the dust better. They then set up plastic barriers so that there was only a direct path from the front door to the bathroom.

When we came back, it was, of course, dusty and dirty in almost the entire home (the apartment is 38 sqm), so we wiped down the ceilings, walls, and wiped down all furniture and surfaces. After that, we have mopped the floors about 4 times.

Now it still nags at me that we might should have brought in a cleaning company for the job as this dust does not seem to be the healthiest. Somehow I get the feeling that the dust remains no matter how much we clean and that we are exposing ourselves to this unhealthy dust completely unnecessarily.

Is my concern justified or am I overthinking?
Quartz dust is far from healthy but you have done what is needed and probably more. The danger is mainly for those who are professionally exposed to larger amounts, for example, cutting quartz-containing material without protection.
 
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B Bitterhetsakademin said:
Quartz dust is far from healthy, but you've done what is necessary and probably more. The danger is mainly for those who are professionally exposed to larger amounts, for example, cutting quartz-containing materials without protection.
Thanks for the response! So what's left can be seen as negligible amounts? I keep finding dust in new places all the time, and it settles as an almost invisible layer here and there.
 
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E exos said:
Thank you for your response! So what remains can be considered negligible amounts? I feel like I'm finding dust in new places all the time and it settles as an almost invisible layer here and there.
It will take time and many cleanings before you are dust-free, but as others have already said, individual occurrences are nothing to worry about.
 
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Jokes aside, the quarterly price of electricity is far worse than quartz dust 😂.

You don't need to worry in the slightest, as mentioned, it's prolonged exposure in high concentrations that can be dangerous.

I've done a lot of renovating at home, and concrete dust has an annoying ability to seem like it's still there. Now, I don't really know what cleaning equipment you have, but I find that a microfiber cloth and soapy water work well.
 
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J Jansson69 said:
It will take time and many cleanings before you are dust-free, but as others have already said, it's an isolated incident, so there's nothing to worry about.
mexitegel mexitegel said:
Joking aside, the electricity at a quartz price is much worse than quartz dust 😂.

You don't need to worry in the slightest; as mentioned, it's long-term exposure in high concentrations that can be dangerous.

I've renovated a lot at home, and concrete dust, in particular, has a stubborn ability to seem like it's still there. Now, I'm not quite sure what cleaning equipment you have, but I find that microfiber cloths and soapy water work well.
Thank you for calming my nerves! Then it's just a matter of continuing to tidy up little by little, and it will likely disappear over time.
 
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E exos said:
Thank you for calming my nerves! Then it's just a matter of continuing to clean up a little bit all the time, and it will probably disappear along the way.
Not to stress you, but I would be more worried about possible asbestos. In bathrooms up until the mid-80s, there is a risk of asbestos in adhesive/grout/pipe wrapping/glue/insulation/etc.
On the other hand, quartz dust isn't completely harmless either. You should avoid exposure to quartz dust as much as possible. Both asbestos and quartz dust have the problem that the fibers/particles that are most dangerous are those that our eyes cannot see.
Ventilation (cross-draft) and wet cleaning are probably the best options for you.
To make you feel a little calmer, you can think that you seem to be aware of risks and thus likely protected yourself/your family better than many others.
Tip for the next renovation, test for asbestos before starting and make it clear to the contractor that no construction dust should be spread. It is possible to work with air purifiers and barriers, probably a bit more expensive – but you avoid the dust and possibly a problematic cleaning of the entire apartment.
Good luck!
 
HovPatrik HovPatrik said:
Not to stress you, but I would be more worried about potential asbestos. In bathrooms up until the mid-80s, there is a risk of asbestos in fix/grout/pipe insulation/glue/insulation/etc.
On the other hand, quartz dust is not completely harmless either. One should avoid exposure to quartz dust as much as possible. Both asbestos and quartz dust have the problem that the most dangerous fibers/particles are those that our eyes cannot see.
Ventilating (cross-draught) and wet wiping are probably the best options for you.
To ease your mind a bit, you can think that you seem to be aware of risks and hence have probably protected yourself/family better than many others.
Tip for the next renovation, test for asbestos before starting and make it clear to the contractor that no construction dust should spread. It's possible to work with air purifiers and airlocks, likely a bit more expensive - but you avoid the dust and potentially problematic cleaning of the entire apartment.
Good luck!
Hello!

Yes, we have ventilated (and frozen, hehe) and wet wiped a number of times. I'm not too worried about asbestos, the bathroom was last renovated in -96, and I would hope that a serious contractor would suggest an asbestos test at the slightest suspicion, it would be catastrophic for them if they let their workers work unprotected against asbestos.
 
HovPatrik HovPatrik said:
Not to stress you, but I would be more worried about potential asbestos. In bathrooms up until the mid-80s, there is a risk of asbestos in the adhesive/grout/pipe lagging/glue/insulation/etc.
On the other hand, quartz dust isn't completely harmless either. You should avoid exposure to quartz dust as much as possible. Both asbestos and quartz dust have the issue that the fibers/particles that are the most dangerous - are the ones our eyes can't see.
Ventilation (cross-ventilation) and wet cleaning are probably the best options for you.
To put your mind at ease, you seem to be aware of the risks and therefore have probably protected yourself/your family better than many others.
Tip for the next renovation, test for asbestos before starting and make it clear to the contractor that no construction dust should be spread. It's possible to work with air purifiers and airlocks, probably a bit more expensive - but you'll avoid the dust and possibly a problematic cleaning of the entire apartment.
Good luck!
Being exposed to asbestos once or twice if you are otherwise healthy does not increase the risk of related diseases. So there is absolutely no reason to scare people unnecessarily. There are numerous threads here on the forum where people are completely hysterical for no reason. Additionally, it's actually houses built before 1977 that you should be cautious about. The asbestos allowed from 1977-1982 was significantly less dangerous.

It's the prolonged/repeated exposure that you need to be cautious about.
 
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mexitegel mexitegel said:
Being exposed to asbestos occasionally if otherwise healthy does not increase the risk for related diseases. So there is absolutely no reason to scare people. There are numerous threads here on the forum where people are completely hysterical for no reason. Moreover, it is mainly houses built before 1977 that should be of concern. The asbestos that was permitted from 1977-1982 was significantly less dangerous.

It is specifically long-term/repeated exposure one should be cautious about.
Partially true, but are you aware that the threshold value for asbestos is being lowered to one-tenth of the previous limit precisely because it is a problematic substance? That diseases take 20-40 years to develop? That everyone reacts differently depending on the quantity and conditions? That the "cocktail effect" of various chemicals/quartz/radon/dust/asbestos/etc we are exposed to daily is a significant uncertainty factor, but the exposure definitely increases the risk of "respiratory-related issues" over time.

According to the Swedish Work Environment Authority, an incredibly large number (I believe it is 78%) of all recognized work-related cancer cases in Sweden are linked to exposure to asbestos dust.

The problem is that we do not know how much and how often we are exposed to substances that deteriorate our health. Therefore, each exposure opportunity should be considered one too many and avoided as much as possible (if one wishes to strive for the greatest possible chance for good health).

Therefore, posts that trivialize asbestos should not be spread. Instead, posts should inform about risks, so that accurate knowledge is communicated and good decisions can be made by homeowners during renovations. Both for their own and their surroundings' sake.
 
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mexitegel mexitegel said:
Being exposed to asbestos once or twice if you are otherwise healthy doesn't increase the risk of related diseases. So there's absolutely no reason to scare people. There are numerous threads here on the forum where people are completely hysterical for no reason. Furthermore, it is actually houses built before 1977 that one should be attentive to. The asbestos that was allowed from 1977-1982 was significantly less dangerous.

It's the long-term/repeated exposure that one should be cautious about.
The construction industry agreed to stop using asbestos in building materials from the turn of the year 1975/1976; blue asbestos was simultaneously completely banned but was hopefully not particularly common in homes. So houses with a construction year of 1976 and later are generally free of asbestos except if a few stubborn or uninformed craftsmen continued to mix it into tile adhesive, for example. For instance, I have never seen a residential house with a construction year of 1976 with an asbestos cement roof (or facade), while this is common in houses with a construction year of 1975. (In Sweden, of course.)
 
HovPatrik HovPatrik said:
Partially true, but you do know that the limit value for asbestos is being reduced to one tenth of the previous limit value precisely because it is a problematic substance, right? That diseases take 20-40 years to develop? That everyone reacts differently depending on the amount and conditions? That the "cocktail effect" of all the various chemicals/quartz/radon/dust/asbestos/etc. we are exposed to daily is a major uncertainty factor, but exposure definitely increases the risk of "respiratory-related problems" over time.

According to the Swedish Work Environment Authority, an incredibly large number (I believe it is 78%) of all recognized work-related cancer cases in Sweden are linked to exposure to asbestos dust.

The problem is that we don't know how much and how often we are exposed to substances that impair our health. Therefore, every instance of exposure should be considered one too many and avoided as much as possible (if one wants to strive for the greatest possible chance of good health).

Therefore, posts that strive to give the impression that asbestos is a trivial matter should not be spread. However, posts should inform about the risks so that the correct knowledge is conveyed and good choices can be made by homeowners during renovations. For both their and the surrounding area's sake.
I would argue that for DIY enthusiasts, the risks are negligible - if you are otherwise healthy.
 
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