Putty the kitchen?

[snowjim]

Hello,

It's time to start plastering the kitchen we are renovating. So far, we have broken down the walls, insulated, put up OSB, and now we are putting up drywall.

I have looked at some instructions and videos, but there are a couple of unclear points.

1. What do you do with the corners in the room? We currently have a gap in the corners of about 1-10 mm where we apply acoustic sealant/latex sealant. Should we use some type of corner bead here instead of fiberglass tape?

2. What tape should be used in the joints? The drywall is tapered, but in some cases, a tapered edge may meet a non-tapered edge (cut drywall). We have looked at self-adhesive fiberglass tape at Bygg Max, is this correct or should we use paper tape? I'd like to use self-adhesive tape to make the job easier.

3. The plaster sinks quite a bit and the plaster we currently have at home is Bygg Max fine putty. I know it sinks quite a lot, had to apply certainly 5 layers on some spots in the ceiling. Is this plaster okay, or should we buy another kind?

4. What tools do we need? Can we manage without a giraffe sander, or should we rent one for a room of 18 sqm?

 

[Stefan N]

1. Paper strip, nothing else. Only soft sealant in corners, strips don't work on inside corners as the force is in the wrong direction so the strip releases.
2. Have you placed boards with a cut edge against a recessed one? Why? It's just extra trouble.
3. Not fine filler. You need medium.
4. I don't sand without a giraffe, but I just go out to the garage and get it, so I don't have to think about renting.

 

[Fjojtmehmet]

Hi,

It's time to start plastering the kitchen we are renovating. So far we have broken up the walls, insulated, put up OSB, and now we're putting up drywall.

I've watched some instructions and videos, but there are a couple of uncertainties.

1. What do you do with the corners in the room? Today we have a gap in the corners of about 1-10 mm where we are applying acoustic sealant/latex. Should you put some type of corner bead here instead of a fiberglass tape?

2. What should be used for the seams? The drywall sheets are tapered, but in some cases, there might be a tapered edge against a non-tapered edge (cut drywall). We've looked at self-adhesive fiberglass tape at Bygg Max, is this correct or should we use paper tape? I would like to use self-adhesive tape to make the job easier.

3. The filler shrinks quite a bit and the filler we currently have at home is Bygg Max fine filler. I know it shrinks quite a lot, I had to apply about 5 layers in the ceiling in some places. Is this filler okay or should we buy another?

4. What tools do we need? Can we manage without a giraffe sander, or should we rent one since it's an 18 sqm room?

1. Just caulk, it's the easiest way.
You can tape an inside corner with paper tape, and it stays in place (in my case it looks the same after two years).
The problem is that it's really difficult to plaster them, and you can never achieve a 90-degree corner.

2. Paper tape is much better in every way. Put the fiberglass tape on the shelf.

3. If you want to do as little plastering as possible, you can start with coarse then switch to medium, but I only use medium all the way through.
Fine is only necessary if you want walls with a piano finish, or if you're named Anders Malmgren.

4. The trick is to plaster as thinly as possible to avoid a lot of tedious sanding.
I bought a giraffe a few years ago, but have only sanded the ceiling with it. If you plaster thinly, you don't need it.

 

[snowjim]

Thanks, I have now plastered the walls, skipped where the furnishings will be

Chose paper tape, not entirely straightforward to apply but now it's in place. I see that 2 smaller areas on 2 tapes have creased in the middle at the seam; hopefully, it can be plastered away.

Used Bygg Max's fine filler which worked beyond expectations. Will sand the walls tomorrow morning with a pole and 120 grit paper, then apply another layer which will hopefully smooth out the last bits.

 

[Stefan N]

You ask for advice about spackling and are immediately advised against using fine spackling, and yet you do it anyway? What's the point of asking if you do the opposite?

 

[jockeping]

I agree, don't use fine spackel, medium is better in this case.

Another tip is to use 80 paper and sand with, much more effective

 

[snowjim]

I was hoping you would say that Byggmax lättspackel was okay. But when you said absolutely not, I had to look it up a bit more, especially to see which filler would facilitate paper tape directly in the filler. Many had succeeded with Byggmax filler and I already had it, so of course I tried it. It obviously worked well! 2 layers were enough and the paper tape worked fine.

It may happen that lättspackel is not necessarily fine filler.

I am, of course, grateful for all the advice!

 

[svartöra]

Byggmax seems to have three types of putty - "grovspackel", "lätt handspackel", and "fyllspackel". The first two are sold in 10-liter buckets, so you can deduce what their intention is. I think their "lätt handspackel" has worked excellently for my plaster walls. I usually glue paper strips with våtrumslim according to tips here on the forum.

 

[Fjojtmehmet]

Hoped you would say that Byggmax light filler was ok. But when you said absolutely not, I had to check a bit more, especially which filler made it easier with paper tape directly in the filler. Many had succeeded with Byggmax filler and I already had it so of course I tried. It apparently worked well! 2 layers were enough and the paper tape worked fine.

It's possible that light filler isn't necessarily fine filler.

I am, of course, happy for all the advice!

I guess the filler you bought is the same as the coarse one, just wetter.

I always use "wet filler," sticky and runny but always works.
You can also use drywall compound in the seams to minimize wrinkles and cracks on the tape.

 

[jockeping]

Good that it works! =) I have the experience with byggmaxspackel that it fills poorly and is hard to work with.

Keep it up!

 

[svartöra]

I assume that coarse/medium/fine primarily relates to the grain size.

Byggmax coarse putty has a maximum grain size of 0.3 mm and their "light hand putty" has a maximum of 0.1 mm.

Can't find many other details, but Nordsjö "Original coarse putty" has a maximum of 0.4 mm and "Original Wall & Ceiling Putty Medium" has 0.16 mm.