Hello!
We are getting fiber at home and we want to install network outlets in the living room and the downstairs area. We intended to use the conduit pipes that the antenna cable runs through, but after inspecting the attic, these are far too narrow. It is not possible to pull two cables through.
Do you have any tips on how to solve this? For the downstairs, we can remove the antenna cable and just pull down a network cable since there is no TV there, but in other rooms where we want network outlets, we can't pull down the cable. Unfortunately, it is not an option to cut into the walls.
We are getting fiber at home and we want to install network outlets in the living room and the downstairs area. We intended to use the conduit pipes that the antenna cable runs through, but after inspecting the attic, these are far too narrow. It is not possible to pull two cables through.
Do you have any tips on how to solve this? For the downstairs, we can remove the antenna cable and just pull down a network cable since there is no TV there, but in other rooms where we want network outlets, we can't pull down the cable. Unfortunately, it is not an option to cut into the walls.
You mention that you can't get 2 cables through; can you get 1 through? If that's possible, there are some options:
1. Place a switch in the living room and connect devices there. Then you'll have multiple ports, and with a gigabit switch and cat-6 cable, the speed should be fine.
2. It's possible to connect two ports to one cable, though the speed will be lower, around 100 Mbit, which should be sufficient if you're not doing anything extreme.
If it's not possible to run any cable at all, another option is to use "homeplugs," i.e., network over the power grid. Very convenient, plug one into the power outlet by your router and one where you want a fixed connection.
It should also be possible to run the TV over it.
1. Place a switch in the living room and connect devices there. Then you'll have multiple ports, and with a gigabit switch and cat-6 cable, the speed should be fine.
2. It's possible to connect two ports to one cable, though the speed will be lower, around 100 Mbit, which should be sufficient if you're not doing anything extreme.
If it's not possible to run any cable at all, another option is to use "homeplugs," i.e., network over the power grid. Very convenient, plug one into the power outlet by your router and one where you want a fixed connection.
It should also be possible to run the TV over it.
TV can't be run over a homeplug, right??? How will you get the antenna signal there?
Also, it's not a good idea to Y-connect a network cable unless you like searching for strange errors. A switch costs less than troubleshooting.
Also, it's not a good idea to Y-connect a network cable unless you like searching for strange errors. A switch costs less than troubleshooting.
Regular TV can't be run over a homeplug, no.sunqan said:
I just assumed it was broadband TV since they got fiber. But it's actually not stated in the question... For me, it was so obvious when we got fiber to fold down the antenna on the roof and use the fiber instead...
In the existing VP pipes, there's very little space left for more cables than the current antenna cable that runs through them. I've been considering skipping the antenna cables since we'll probably be using IPTV. Still, it feels right to keep the antenna cable in the pipes. Downstairs, we can remove the antenna cable as no one watches TV there; it's more about gaming, computers, and movies there. Internet is more needed there. But in the living room upstairs, we might want both. So probably try with an additional cable there.
The phone jack must stay downstairs since the first jack is there, so the alarm and such run off it. The Homeplug goes to the living room today, but it's hit or miss and won't work when the fiber is installed as that part of the house is on a different phase and has a different circuit breaker panel. I understand it's challenging for you, not knowing the layout, to give any concrete and good advice. But is it impossible to replace the pipes with something thicker without having to cut open the walls?
The phone jack must stay downstairs since the first jack is there, so the alarm and such run off it. The Homeplug goes to the living room today, but it's hit or miss and won't work when the fiber is installed as that part of the house is on a different phase and has a different circuit breaker panel. I understand it's challenging for you, not knowing the layout, to give any concrete and good advice. But is it impossible to replace the pipes with something thicker without having to cut open the walls?
Replacing pipes is absolutely not possible without tearing up the whole house. In that case, it's much better to find a new path for the extra cables, with a bit of thinking you can usually manage to weave your way through.
However, that is not what I would recommend. Instead, solve the problem by removing the antenna cable; you will definitely never use it again.
If, against all odds, it turns out you need an antenna cable in the future, you can tackle the problem then. There's no reason to sweat over it now.
Edit: Modern versions of Homeplug should work between different phases and up to 300 meters.
However, that is not what I would recommend. Instead, solve the problem by removing the antenna cable; you will definitely never use it again.
If, against all odds, it turns out you need an antenna cable in the future, you can tackle the problem then. There's no reason to sweat over it now.
Edit: Modern versions of Homeplug should work between different phases and up to 300 meters.
I have just installed network and antenna cables in the same conduit (on an entire floor). I had the same problem as the original poster until a friend recommended a thinner antenna cable (also mentioned by someone before me above) that was available at Kjell or Clas Ohlson. After that, with a little good will, it worked. Even though IP is modern and becoming more widespread, one should not underestimate free TV in good quality that comes through the air. I use my thin cables frequently.
It may have been http://www.kjell.com/sortiment/ljud...l-mini-koax-p39419#ProductDetailedInformation
It may have been http://www.kjell.com/sortiment/ljud...l-mini-koax-p39419#ProductDetailedInformation
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Well, finding thinner cat5 cables and coaxial cables is indeed a solution.
And maybe fiber can be a solution?
http://www.kjell.com/fraga-kjell/hur-funkar-det/natverk/kabelinstallation/smarta-kabellosningar
http://www.kjell.com/sortiment/dato...t-natverk/fiber/optisk-fiberanslutning-p68911
And maybe fiber can be a solution?
http://www.kjell.com/fraga-kjell/hur-funkar-det/natverk/kabelinstallation/smarta-kabellosningar
http://www.kjell.com/sortiment/dato...t-natverk/fiber/optisk-fiberanslutning-p68911
The fact that an antenna cable is already installed doesn't mean it can't be replaced. Check elfa, kjell, or classe to see what they have. If the conduits are 16mm, it might be tight with 2x7mm, so if you find thinner, that's good. Otherwise, you need to buy glidslem and pull both cables simultaneously.